Don't Do Nothing

[00:00:00] Aaron: All right, gentlemen. They 

[00:00:01] Brad: would say yes. 

[00:00:02] Aaron: And ladies, or ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen, only. There is a very special individual called Rury, Rury McLeod. That’s not bad on the show. Yeah. Thank you. That’s not bad. Thank you very much. So, uh, this guy is an incredible human being. He definitely wears kilts and skirts.

[00:00:19] Aaron: I mean, I don’t know the difference. What, no. Here’s, jeez, hold up. But here’s the deal. His companies are doing over 40 million US dollars in sales, which is what, 30 million quid, as you say. Uh, and, and he has high, high margins, bro, higher than, than our company. So I have to say, I don’t know about that rich.

[00:00:37] Aaron: Mm-hmm. And he is on our show. Rury. 

[00:00:40] Rury: Thank you. Thank you for having me. America. America. You can’t do that. Sorry. Okay. Thank you for having me here in the United States of America, guys, you’re welcome. Yes. 

[00:00:49] Brad: On behalf of the United States of America. You’re welcome. Okay, so I gotta say before we came on, Rury somehow can do like, can turn his accent on and off.

[00:00:59] Brad: Like I watch your [00:01:00] Instagram story all the time and it’s like full on fricking Scottish. Yeah. Like Kerrygold level. 

[00:01:05] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:01:06] Brad: You know about Kerrygold? 

[00:01:07] Rury: No, I don’t know who that is. 

[00:01:08] Aaron: It’s Irish. 

[00:01:09] Brad: No, that’s butter. Oh, 

[00:01:10] Rury: Kerry Gold 

[00:01:11] Brad: Carry butter. Sorry. The butter. 

[00:01:13] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:01:14] Brad: It’s like, that’s what I see on your Instagram story.

[00:01:15] Brad: Then you come over here and you can just speak like an American. 

[00:01:18] Rury: Yeah, that’s because I have American in my blood. No, I don’t actually. I might, I don’t. No, I don’t think I do. No. 

[00:01:27] Aaron: So, so, so, so 

[00:01:29] Rury: where 

[00:01:29] Aaron: you from? You’re like from the ghetto? No, like some like, 

[00:01:32] Rury: uh, well, we don’t, yeah. I mean, well, I, not a very, I, I, my hometown is a place called Clyde Bank.

[00:01:40] Rury: Clyde 

[00:01:40] Aaron: Bank. 

[00:01:41] Rury: Yeah. And it’s, the reason why it’s called Clyde Bank is it’s on the banks of the, you guys call banks. Banks in the side of the river. The river outside. 

[00:01:48] Outside 

[00:01:49] Aaron: of the 

[00:01:49] Rury: river. Yeah. 

[00:01:49] Aaron: Yeah. 

[00:01:49] Rury: Except we don’t really 

[00:01:50] Aaron: have very many rivers. Not man. 

[00:01:51] Rury: Okay. So Clyde Bank is on the banks of the river, Clyde.

[00:01:55] Rury: Yeah. Which is probably the most famous river in Scotland. 

[00:01:59] Brad: [00:02:00] Mm-hmm. 

[00:02:00] Rury: And. Actually, 

[00:02:01] Brad: is that where they invented river dancing? 

[00:02:03] Rury: No, that’s, I, that’s Ireland feels river dance. Dunno why it’s called River dance maybe. I dunno. But, but Clyde Bank is on the banks of the Clyde and the River. Clyde, at one point, at the turn of century produced like one third of the ships on the planet in that one river, Clyde.

[00:02:19] Rury: So it’s like, yeah, it had hundreds of ship building yards and, and it was heavy industry, working class, like an amazing, amazing place. So all up and down the Clyde they were producing ships, so Clyde Bank’s like my home town. Mm-hmm. Uh, which is like predominantly like working class. Mm-hmm. And then, and then yeah, we, we moved around a little bit, but that’s what I would probably call home sort of thing.

[00:02:42] Aaron: Sweet. Nice. 

[00:02:43] Rury: Is that okay for you? 

[00:02:44] Brad: Yeah, 

[00:02:45] Rury: absolutely. Is that okay for you? So it’s kind of like a ghetto, 

[00:02:47] Brad: but. Was it, was it, was it pretty, I mean, did you grow up? 

[00:02:50] Rury: I don’t with anyone like that. Gay was like, did I grow up with, I mean, my dad was a teacher. How many fights did you get into before you were 18?

[00:02:57] Rury: That’s, that’s a good gauge. Uh, that’s a good, I dunno, [00:03:00] like, fights before, I dunno, like 20. 

[00:03:03] Aaron: Okay. 

[00:03:03] Brad: Yeah, 

[00:03:04] Aaron: I mean that’s, that’s, that’s good. The good 

[00:03:06] Rury: invitation 

[00:03:07] Brad: Actually, after 

[00:03:07] Rury: 18, there wasn’t many fights. There’s maybe like one or two, but 

[00:03:10] Brad: I, 

[00:03:11] Aaron: okay. 

[00:03:11] Brad: That was 

[00:03:12] Rury: just part of growing up. Certainly 

[00:03:13] Brad: also side note, but related to what we’re doing here.

[00:03:17] Brad: Also a Scientologist. 

[00:03:20] Rury: That’s correct. 

[00:03:20] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:03:21] Rury: Yeah. Scottish Scientologist. ID there’s, would you 

[00:03:25] Brad: describe yourself as the Scottish 

[00:03:26] Aaron: Scientologist? 

[00:03:27] Rury: No. No, no, no. There’s, I had to 

[00:03:29] Aaron: ask. 

[00:03:29] Rury: I mean, no, no, there’s, there’s many more fine Scottish Scientologists than me. I know, I know, I know. But yeah. Yeah. I, who are 

[00:03:36] Aaron: the most famous Scottish Scientologists?

[00:03:38] Aaron: I, 

[00:03:38] Rury: no, I don’t know if there’s like famous Scottish Scientologists, but the guys that, that, um, you, that run the organization in Scotland. Yeah. And then Al also the, some of the organizations in England are run by Scottish people, so it makes sense that like, ’cause Yeah, they’re cool. 

[00:03:54] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:03:54] Aaron: Cool. Cool. 

[00:03:55] Rury: You know, 

[00:03:55] Aaron: so how, how did you get in Scientology?

[00:03:57] Rury: How did I get in Scientology? Oof. [00:04:00] Geez, that’s a question. I mean, fundamentally, uh, my father was, eh. Given a book by a friend who was like an artist. And then my dad quite liked it. And then roundabout, I dunno, maybe like 17, 18 or something like that. I was like, oh, not 

[00:04:19] Aaron: in the year 17, 18? 

[00:04:21] Rury: No, just when in the 

[00:04:22] Aaron: year 17.

[00:04:22] Aaron: Like, 

[00:04:23] Rury: is that, is, is that what I saying? Sorry. No, it’s, no, but like, probably like, kinda, yeah. When I was about 17, 18, I was, I was up to some naughty business 

[00:04:32] Aaron: mm-hmm. 

[00:04:33] Rury: On, on sort of different areas. And I, I got, uh, like severe depression, proper, uh, full on depression. Mm. Like, uh, and uh, like to the point where it was like I was crying and I, I couldn’t stop.

[00:04:49] Rury: It was just like this huge sort of weight on me. Mm. I was a good guy, but I was doing some. Not so good stuff. And my like, God, now we’re [00:05:00] going deep. My mother was like taking into a psychiatric hospital when I was nine. 

[00:05:04] Brad: Oh, 

[00:05:04] Rury: wow. So yeah. So I kinda, she was given a drug called lithium. Mm-hmm. Which is the same stuff, uh, that batteries are made out of.

[00:05:11] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:05:12] Rury: And what it does is it solidifies like the nerve endings in the brain 

[00:05:16] Brad: mm-hmm. 

[00:05:16] Rury: And the connection tissue, and it like nullifies emotion and energy. So the person becomes more, like, the word would be like tractable. It’s like easier to control. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And uh, she was given this lithium, she was kind of like an state where she was like hearing voices and they would say like’s schizophrenic.

[00:05:37] Aaron: That’s after the lithium or before the 

[00:05:39] Rury: lithium. Then she took the lithium and she just became like a zombie, just put on lots of weight, just sat around the house and I kind of felt like the medicine. I thought the medicine or the medication, that’s what was working because. It stopped her like talking to herself.

[00:05:56] Rury: But what it did is it just suppressed everything. 

[00:05:59] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:05:59] Rury: [00:06:00] So she had no ability to do anything. Mm-hmm. 

[00:06:02] Brad: Yeah. She 

[00:06:03] Rury: just sat in the house and I would just watch her every day just sitting there drinking cups of tea and that’s all she would do. Yeah. And um, so when I got like depression really because I was being unethical and doing bad stuff and not being like through to myself.

[00:06:20] Rury: Mm-hmm. Uh, I knew that I couldn’t go to like a doctor ’cause they’re going to just give me a, a, a pill. Mm-hmm. 

[00:06:29] Brad: And 

[00:06:29] Rury: I knew what the pills of the tablets, so the stuff did because I saw what happened to my mom and I wasn’t like. Religious per se, in terms of like, maybe I’ll just pray that this will go away, or something like that.

[00:06:42] Rury: So I was stuck. I was really stuck and I actually felt, I mean, I think I was about 18, I actually felt my life was over. I was like, I’m not good at school. 

[00:06:52] Brad: Mm. 

[00:06:53] Rury: Shit. Well re I’m not good at school. I’m not good at being a criminal. [00:07:00] And, uh, and so what, like, I’m 18 and I’m screwed. Mm. And, and I was just at this heavy depression.

[00:07:07] Rury: So my dad contacted the Scientology Place in Edinburgh, and then they put me on a lady called Francis who was in Glasgow. She was the only Scientologist, I think in Glasgow at the time. Wow. And she delivered this stuff called Dietetics di through tics mind. And, uh, that’s the boy there. 

[00:07:29] Mm-hmm. 

[00:07:29] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:07:30] Rury: And I just like, I went, I like, I had a map and an dress.

[00:07:34] Rury: Like, it was like not had, didn’t have phones in. And I went into this suburbian, this household estate. I’m like, what’s going on here? And kind, I got the address and went up the door and like, she can open the door. And I was like, Francis? She’s like, yeah, Rudy. I was like, yeah. She’s like, come on in. I’m like, and then there’s a woman’s house.

[00:07:52] Rury: I’m like, what am I doing here, man? And then the first question she asked me, I’ll never remember, I’ve always remembered it. She goes, have you eaten? And I [00:08:00] was like, no. And she’s like, okay. And she made me a dinner and I was like, and she had let some kids and her husband, uh, was like, uh, he built houses and all this sort of stuff.

[00:08:10] Rury: And uh, and then she just like, um, explained what we were going to do and explained some terms with me. And I, I’ve got nothing to lose. I don’t care. Right. Okay, fine. And uh, she just started getting me to like, remember stuff and talk about stuff and. To be honest, the first couple of like sessions, they were okay.

[00:08:31] Rury: It was like, fine. I didn’t, looking back on it now, I was actually coming like up from like sorta a low level like depression and grief and I kinda started to get up a bit. And you like, uh, I was a bit bored mm-hmm. With it. Mm-hmm. And I, looking back now, you take boredom over like, like despair? Yeah. Mm-hmm.

[00:08:52] Rury: Any day of the week grief. Yeah. But I hadn’t even noticed that. And it got to the point where I was like, and she’s like, okay, you know, and she said, [00:09:00] come back. And I went back, she come back and come back and it was like three days and then like the fourth day or something, I decided that’s enough for me.

[00:09:07] Rury: Mm-hmm. Like, I’m fine. Yeah. And she said, okay, so come back. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I’ve come back like with no intention mm-hmm. Of coming back. Yeah. I, I was gone and, and I went and, uh, it was like, like the next slip following Monday or something. I’m sitting in my dad’s, uh, flat and a place called White Creek and Cly.

[00:09:28] Rury: My dad goes to the door and he goes, Rudy, it’s Francis. And I was like,

[00:09:35] Rury: I said, what? Like, she shouldn’t be coming to my house like that. Like, that’s rude. Like, like, like, and I like, she’d come in, but she was a lovely woman. I’m like, I didn’t have the like, balls to say like, what the, that I was like, oh, hi Fred. She’s like, hi. Yeah. And um, she had like this case with her. Mm. I was like, it was like a suitcase.

[00:09:58] Rury: I was like, what the, what? [00:10:00] I’m looking at her thing and then she like, she pulls out this sort. There’s like a meter thing with like a, like a, a needle and a dial and like some knobs. And I’m like, what the, I’m like, what? And there’s these two like, cans look, get like crocodile clips and wires. And I’m like, what the, and then she go, yeah, yeah, we’re going to do like the session.

[00:10:22] Rury: I was like, okay. And she’s like, hold the cans. And I trusted her. I liked her a lot. She really helped me. So it was like, and she, I could, I knew she cared about me, so I was like, fine. I kinda, I held the cans and uh, she started asking me some stuff and then I thought about something. I’m like, I’m not, I’m not telling her that.

[00:10:42] Rury: Like, and then she goes, what’s that? I’m like, and I’m like, uh, and then I just kind of put it to the back of my mind and we keep on doing, then I think of this thing again. She goes again. She goes, what’s that? And I was like, I was like that [00:11:00] thing that she’s got that meter thing. When I think of something, she can see it.

[00:11:05] Rury: I was like, I’m,

[00:11:10] Rury: and I’m like, and then I was like, oh. And then I was go, I goes, and then I thought again, she goes that there. And I’m like, oh. I goes, look, okay, I’m going to tell you, but just, just gimme a minute. Like, and I’m like, and I’m like, I’m gonna tell her stuff. Like I’ve never talked about, like, and I’m sitting going like, she’s sitting just waiting.

[00:11:31] Rury: I’m like, okay. And I’m just building up the confidence just to like, and I just went like, blah. And just, ah, just bawling. 

[00:11:45] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:11:46] Rury: And she knew fine, well that the, she knew what she was doing and it was like, and her control was so perfect. 

[00:11:52] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:11:53] Rury: And she just took me any, a thing that I wasn’t looking at. Mm-hmm.

[00:11:59] Rury: And. [00:12:00] I started to just feel this like incredible relief, you know? Mm. And uh, and she just kept on going about it. And then I started talking about stuff I’d never spoke to anyone about, but with ease. And then she’s like, you know, is there something like earlier, man, I just started talking about something earlier and I, I spot this sort decision I’ve made and these thoughts about losing and like life and, and I, I spotted this thing and then I realized that every point on the stuff that we’d talked about, I’d made the same sort of decision up to present.

[00:12:38] Rury: And I spotted, it was like a sorta accordion that kind of went and I went and the weight came up off my shoulders and I went. Fran, I need to go for a walk. Like, and she went, okay, on you. Go on, you go. I just walked out and I’m like, it was like 11 o’clock at night and I was walking through like the [00:13:00] streets of Clay Bank, like, oh, like the hills are line with the sound of music.

[00:13:04] Rury: It was like, I was like, and I just thought, first of all, I thought I’m so lucky ’cause there’s something that works. 

[00:13:14] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:13:15] Rury: No hypnotism, no drugs, no faith, no. Just a process. 

[00:13:19] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:13:20] Rury: And I found that answer with her help from myself and it, that depression just like woof came off and I came back and I thought, oh, I found something.

[00:13:31] Rury: I was like, I’m gonna use this. Like I’m going to use this, I’m gonna do this. Like I’m gonna do more of this stuff. ’cause it was like. That’s like degraded. And I was gonna say, ’cause it was kind of like a drug or something, but it was like, it was just natural. You find your own answer and you find relief.

[00:13:47] Rury: Mm-hmm. With the help of another looking at your mind. And I was like, ugh, I’m, I’m in. Like, I was just at that point I was like, yep, going to do more of this stuff man. And 

[00:13:56] Brad: wow. 

[00:13:57] Rury: I mean, I actually did a bit, I learned how to [00:14:00] communicate and I like did like some sort of detox sort of thing. 

[00:14:03] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:14:04] Rury: And like they got me in really good shape and I was like, cool.

[00:14:07] Rury: So now I’m going to go meet loads of ladies and have some fun and then I’ll come back. And then I was like, oh, what am I not so good ideas? Or like, I went off for like on and off for about seven years, mucking around, went to like art college and uni and all this. And then when I was about 26, 27 something, I was like, right, I’m gonna do it for real.

[00:14:29] Rury: And then gave it a real goal at that point. Yeah. And that’s actually when I started my first, like my own business, my first time. 

[00:14:37] Aaron: Wow. 

[00:14:37] Rury: Business started putting into business. We did like a communal stair, well cleaning, so we’d clean like communal stairs and uh Oh wow. Edinburgh, Scotland. Yeah. 

[00:14:48] Brad: Cleaning stairs.

[00:14:49] Rury: Cleaning, because it’s like, we have tenement buildings. I think you guys might call them brownstones or something like that. Yeah. Never heard of brownstones. It’s like New York. You’ve got these, um, or well, in Scotland where you have these [00:15:00] large sandstone apartment blocks, so you, you, you, there’s a stairwell and you’ll have like eight or 16 or 24, uh, apartments are flats.

[00:15:11] Rury: Mm-hmm. We call them and a stairwell. And 

[00:15:13] Brad: they all connect to the one stairwell. Okay. 

[00:15:15] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:15:15] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:15:15] Rury: So then we would clean that communal stairwell. 

[00:15:18] Brad: And over there they don’t have running water or anything, so they just throw the, the, that’s kind of true in some. 

[00:15:25] Aaron: I’m 

[00:15:26] Brad: sorry, 

[00:15:26] I 

[00:15:26] Brad: had to, 

[00:15:27] Aaron: I mean, I’ve seen some, I’ve been some of these castles, 

[00:15:29] Rury: bro.

[00:15:30] Rury: No, I mean, back in the day in Edinburgh, they’d throw it out the window under the street. Their toilet. Yeah. They would die. I saw them in my history book. Yeah. Aye, it wasn’t, wasn’t the best. Yeah. 

[00:15:38] Aaron: Well, I have to say thank you Francis. Uh, I know she’s still around 

[00:15:41] Rury: Fran. No, no. She’s, she’s actually lives here in America.

[00:15:44] Rury: She’s Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Still in contact with her today, man. Like, 

[00:15:47] Aaron: amazing. 

[00:15:48] Rury: Yeah. Amazing. 

[00:15:49] Aaron: You’re to have pulled you out 

[00:15:50] Rury: for real. Like the, the thanks I have to give her for like turning up at my house, like, no, no, I’m going to help this [00:16:00] guy even if it’s uncomfortable. Mm-hmm. Like that level of help.

[00:16:06] Rury: Requires like balls. Mm-hmm. You know, like she just like, I’m going to go at this guy’s house. ’cause she knew that she could get that, that effect. She knew she could like, relieve me of that depression and she wasn’t willing to like back down even if I was trying to get out of it. And I was like, like if she, if she didn’t have that confront and if she didn’t have that persistence, then I dunno what would’ve happened to me.

[00:16:32] Rury: You know, it wasn’t definitely wasn’t looking too great at that time. Yeah, 

[00:16:35] Brad: yeah. 

[00:16:36] Rury: You know? 

[00:16:36] Brad: Yeah. Did you feel like, um, did you have any aspirations to greatness back then? Like any big dreams or big ideas? Or was it just kinda like life? 

[00:16:47] Rury: Uh, no. I like the back then, like my mother and father split up when, uh, I was a bit 10 Yeah.

[00:16:53] Rury: Sort of thing. My mom was not in good shape. Mm-hmm. My father wasn’t really in great shape either kinda thing. [00:17:00] And I was like, uh, a bit insular. So I had a sister, but I wasn’t very nice to her. And she ended up going to another family. It kinda more or less raised her. So my dream was to have, now I’m gonna say this word, I say girlfriend right now.

[00:17:21] Rury: When I say girlfriend, you guys probably hear ghetto friend or something like that. Yeah, 

[00:17:25] Aaron: yeah, yeah. 

[00:17:25] Rury: I But it’s girlfriend. Girlfriend. 

[00:17:28] Aaron: Oh, 

[00:17:28] Rury: hell yeah. Yeah, yeah. But, and, and Scott, you say ghetto friend, right? 

[00:17:32] Aaron: You’re ghetto friend. 

[00:17:33] Rury: I read that 

[00:17:34] Aaron: ghetto friend. 

[00:17:36] Rury: The reason why I knew that is I said to a guy, this American guy that goes, if you got a ghetto friend, and he goes, yeah, sure.

[00:17:41] Rury: And I was like, it’s a weird answer. I goes, what’s her name? And he goes, who? And I went, your girlfriend? And he went, what? And I was like, what’s going on here? I went, I was like, what is your girlfriend’s name? Like, what’s so complicated that? And he looked at me and he is like. My friend from the ghetto and I was like, what is [00:18:00] this guy talking about?

[00:18:02] Rury: And then I realized, oh, G. And then I was like, oh, girlfriend, he’s, oh, girlfriend, like, girlfriend, girlfriend, you got a girlfriend? And he said, uh, no. I was like, oh, okay. Okay. But uh, 

[00:18:14] Brad: so your dream was to have a girlfriend? 

[00:18:16] Rury: Basically, the dream was, the dream was to have a girlfriend. It was to, it was to have someone that would love me and I’d love them.

[00:18:23] Rury: And for me that was like safety or something. So, uh, like my decision to buy clothes or how I wanted a car when I was older, it was like, or I wanted to do well financially, was all with the basis that I would get. A girlfriend mm-hmm. Sort of thing. So my, I didn’t have ideas about greatness or mm-hmm. I don’t, like, I still don’t really have ideas about greatness, but I, I, I, I like to think how much I can try and help sort of thing.

[00:18:50] Rury: Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, at that time I was just purely kinda fixated on the concept to having someone to love like [00:19:00] that I could be with sort of thing. Mm-hmm. And that would be like, I like safety or something like that. So that’s what I was like, that was like my primary goal growing up sort of thing. Uh, but I had like, uh, necessity because like when my mother wasn’t doing well, my father was a teacher, but he’d like separated so he had to pay for his own like place where he lived.

[00:19:23] Rury: Yeah. And where we lived. And he was probably on like 25. Grand a year or something. Not a lot of money. 

[00:19:29] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:19:30] Rury: So there was times where there was no money and there was times when there was no food. So like you’re going down the kitchen and looking through the cupboards, even though you’ve looked through the cupboards yesterday, there’s no food.

[00:19:40] Rury: There’s no food. So when I was like 12, I took on a job. I, yeah, I was about 12 years old. I took on a job at a Pakistani news agent, uh, for 75 pence an hour. A what? A Pakistani news agent. 

[00:19:55] Aaron: A pack of, 

[00:19:55] Rury: do you know what a new, oh, you guys were like a 

[00:19:57] Aaron: newspaper place? 

[00:19:58] Rury: No, it’s like a [00:20:00] convenience store. 

[00:20:00] Aaron: Oh, convenience store.

[00:20:02] Aaron: They call it a news agency. 

[00:20:04] Rury: Yeah. Well, news ’cause you sold, they they prime sell newspapers. Sold newspapers. Okay. But then they would sell some like fRuryt and veg. And then they sell, sell sold alcohol. 

[00:20:13] Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:20:13] Rury: So they, so 

[00:20:14] Aaron: you’re selling alcohol at 12. Okay. 

[00:20:15] Rury: I was stuck in the, I was stuck in the shelves of alcohol and I was really surprised how much alcohol got consumed.

[00:20:20] Rury: Jesus. Basically, but 

[00:20:22] Brad: like, I can’t keep this, this in stock. 

[00:20:24] Rury: Scotland. It was Scotland. It’s true. It’s like cheese, like just regulars coming in. Bottles of whiskey, bottles of vodka, bottles of general. And I’m just stocking up these shells. And, um, I got like 75 pence an hour. And then you’d get a, like a 15 minute break.

[00:20:39] Rury: I’d work there from like six to 10. Yeah. In the evening. Sometimes it would be a bit earlier. I’d make bags of potatoes. Three pound of, so 

[00:20:46] Brad: you would literally make $3 a day. 

[00:20:47] Rury: Something like that. I, but that was Okay. 

[00:20:49] Brad: Quid. Quid. Three quid. Three quid. 

[00:20:51] Rury: Sorry. Three qui qui, three quid. I, so probably like. In this day, four, four or $5.

[00:20:56] Rury: But yeah, I made, I was, I was working in there and, [00:21:00] uh, that was, that was like pretty tough. And it wasn’t a lot of money actually. It was like, God, 75 bin an hour, you know? And by the end of the week I’d maybe, like, I’d do like 15 hours or something. I was making like 10, 12 quid sort of money. Mm-hmm. And then I had a Sunday paper round.

[00:21:16] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:21:17] Rury: And my dad really forced me to get it. ’cause he wanted me to like produce and make my, he had this sort of idea that I should make my own way. 

[00:21:26] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:21:26] Rury: Which was awesome. That was one of the biggest positive things my dad ever gave me. 

[00:21:30] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:21:31] Rury: And, uh, so I would do the paper on a Sunday. It was like 12 quid.

[00:21:35] Rury: And then I’d get like 12 quid from the, the new the, the convenience store. 

[00:21:40] Brad: The 

[00:21:40] Rury: news agency. The news agency. So I was making Pakistan Pakistani news agents. It’s called Madans. It was the end of the village of and talker. Oh wow. But, so then I’d have like 25 quid. A week. 

[00:21:52] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:21:53] Rury: Uh, 24 quid ranging, just depending.

[00:21:55] Rury: Mm-hmm. And, uh, and that was, that was kind of quite a decent amount of money. So my [00:22:00] dad actually gave me a nickname. He started calling me Reginald Money Bags. And then my friends heard him call me Reginald. So then my friends all started calling me Reg Reggie. And then that was my nickname growing up, reg.

[00:22:15] Rury: And, uh, yeah, just that was my, my, my jobs and I just kept them on. And then you’d, that would pay for your alcohol and your drugs? I’d buy like weed. They’d buy alcohol and then I’d work, and then it was like Saturday night I’d get a bad state. Yeah. And then you get maybe four hours sleep. You’d get up like.

[00:22:34] Rury: Terrible condition. 

[00:22:34] Brad: Sunday morning, paper 

[00:22:35] Rury: round Sunday morning, go deliver the papers, man. Then go back to bed, sleep off. Wait, 

[00:22:39] Aaron: how old are you now? 

[00:22:40] Rury: Like 12, 13? Yeah. Yes, I fought. Oh, 

[00:22:43] Brad: the drugs and alcohol came in that early. 

[00:22:45] Rury: Yeah. Yeah, I was, well ‘

[00:22:45] Aaron: cause he got the money that the, he 

[00:22:47] Rury: got the money baby. Yeah, 

[00:22:48] Aaron: people reginal.

[00:22:49] Aaron: How did you find the guys to sell you? Uh, like where did you buy weed? At the, at the 

[00:22:53] Rury: convenience store? No, it was just, there was a guy, there was some older guys in my street and then one day I just remember [00:23:00] like, they’re like, yeah, we’re going to smoke ganja, you know, ganja. And they were like listening to Bob Marley or whatever and I’m like, well, okay, fine.

[00:23:07] Rury: Like, and uh, and I was kinda like,

[00:23:13] Rury: it’s funny ’cause I was like a little bit, I had ideas about like past lives and spirituality and different things, but there was no like. Reality or connection or anything like that. Anyway, these boys are like, yeah, we’re going to buy, we, we called it hash at the time, and it was like, uh, it’s like the oil of marijuana hardened, so it’s like, uh, we call it and like a wax, 

[00:23:35] Brad: right?

[00:23:36] Rury: Yeah. You get, it’s like, it was pretty hard. But we, we bought this and you get like, you could get like an eighth or a quarter or like announcement only a couple of times got announced because it was a lot. But we, we, we went and bought like a half an eighth. It was literally enough for like two joints.

[00:23:51] Rury: And me, this guy, Michael and Chris went down to the school, school was shut, climbed over the fence, got the skins out, and like managed to build like a [00:24:00] joint. And I’m like 11 or 12, something like that. 

[00:24:02] Brad: Oh my gosh. 

[00:24:03] Rury: And like I smoke this thing, take like a few hits and then like I’m stoned and I lie down on, on the, the tarmac of the playground of the school looking up the stars.

[00:24:13] Rury: And I kind of feel a bit. Like out of it, like separated from my body kinda thing. And I’m sitting going, wow, this is, this is awesome, man. Just sitting there like, 

[00:24:23] Brad: yeah. 

[00:24:24] Rury: And then I remember that night going home thinking, oh, I, I’m taking drugs. Like this thing that was told I was never to do. 

[00:24:31] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:24:32] Rury: I’m now, I’m now a, a drug user.

[00:24:34] Rury: Like I take drugs. And it was like, I remember thinking, miss me, I’m taking drugs. Like I’ve made, I’ve crossed that line. And then that was 

[00:24:42] Brad: So you just adopted the beingness of like, Hey, I use drugs. 

[00:24:46] Rury: Yeah. And it was kinda like to some of the other guys and that. Yeah. Uh, it was cool. And then most of the guys that were like good fighters or any drugs and alcohol, they got the gits, [00:25:00] the girls.

[00:25:00] Aaron: Mm, no, I got it. This, 

[00:25:01] Rury: you got the ghet, they got the girls, but. So then I thought we 

[00:25:05] Aaron: talked about that on act dude, and the same thing. That’s that’s the thing, the girl, it’s somehow, it’s a They’re connected bro. 

[00:25:10] Rury: Yeah, yeah. Well, when I was growing up, if you, if you could like beat up guys and treat women badly, like you’re going to get the best girls.

[00:25:18] Rury: Yeah. Like, so all these guys got the girls. But the thing is, is I was so introverted, I’d just smoke weed and get drunk and I couldn’t get the girls. I’d be funny and everyone would laugh at me, but I was scared. Like my dad gave me like so much like. He’d be like, ’cause I had a rough time. And he’d be like, listen, if you choose the wrong one, it’s over.

[00:25:42] Rury: Like you choose the wrong. Made pretty serious. Oh man. You choose, like I, 

[00:25:46] he’s 

[00:25:46] Aaron: talking about your mom, 

[00:25:47] Rury: just like, I mean, in a way he’s not saying 

[00:25:50] Aaron: that, but 

[00:25:51] Rury: Yeah, my dad was married before as well, so it’s like, but it’s like the, the amount of pressure that was put on me and how I saw my mom and my mom and dad would’ve [00:26:00] arguments and fights and it’s like, dude, if you picked the wrong one and then I’d maybe have a little girl, I liked you, you just make sure you watch.

[00:26:07] Rury: And I’d maybe be a bit stressed ’cause she didn’t talk to me or something. Yeah. Watch or something. Wow. I was like, so a 

[00:26:13] Brad: nervous wreck. It’s, it’s, it’s a must have. Can’t have. 

[00:26:15] Rury: Oh, weird. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I was like, so it was better just kind of take drugs and then maybe something would happen kind of thing.

[00:26:22] Rury: And it was like years of that I just, just sit in my room, had a computer. So I had a motorbike when I was like 12. Mm-hmm. I sold it, bought a computer, worst move ever. So I’d just play the computer every night of the week, and then on Friday and Saturday go out, get like mashed and then, uh, you know, just work or do my paper.

[00:26:44] Rury: And, and that was at right up to like when I was 16 sort of thing. Wow. Then I got a, got a job in a supermarket, which was like 2 78 an hour. Like, oh, 

[00:26:54] Aaron: that’s a huge, 

[00:26:55] Rury: that’s a big jump, bro. And on, on a Sunday they gave you double. It was like five pound 50, [00:27:00] let’s go. So, all right. That was like when I hit the big bucks.

[00:27:04] Brad: Yeah. Okay. So Fred, do we mind, do you mind if we fast 

[00:27:08] Rury: forward 

[00:27:09] Brad: please to today? 

[00:27:10] Rury: I hear you. 

[00:27:10] Brad: Okay. So what, what changed between that, between then and now? Other than everything. 

[00:27:16] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:27:16] Brad: What, what’s, what’s changed? How, how do you go from where you are? Then you start your business doing communal stair cleaning, and now you’re here.

[00:27:27] Brad: Like the up, I saw, I saw you fly to, uh, Utah. Yeah. A week or two ago. On a pj. 

[00:27:34] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:27:34] Brad: I You on private jet all the time. Private. 

[00:27:36] Rury: Oh yeah. Okay. 

[00:27:37] Brad: You can steal, you can steal that. You can steal that from, thank you. Pj. Pj, yeah. 

[00:27:40] Rury: Got it. 

[00:27:41] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:27:44] Rury: So, uh, me, I mean, 

[00:27:46] Brad: the thing is, is, is also, actually I’m gonna interrupt. I haven’t interrupted once.

[00:27:49] Brad: I need to interrupt. Dude. You’re an amazing storyteller. 

[00:27:51] Rury: Oh yeah. 

[00:27:52] Brad: Yeah. Have you always been able to do that? Have you ever, has anyone ever commented on that to you before? 

[00:27:57] Rury: Eh, no, not really. No. [00:28:00] 

[00:28:00] Aaron: That’s such bs. 

[00:28:00] Brad: Yeah. That’s BS bro. That’s bs dude. 

[00:28:02] Aaron: I’ve seen you tell a story. With you talking about Tyler, for example?

[00:28:07] Brad: Yeah, I 

[00:28:07] Aaron: can, no, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I can see, I 

[00:28:10] Brad: can perfectly, 

[00:28:10] Aaron: bro, every single person, like if it’s whatever, an event, there’s like 50 people, everyone like cracking up, like hurting their ribs and everyone’s coming to you. Dude, that story. Oh my gosh. So you, you can’t sit there with a straight face saying you haven’t told you’re a good storyteller.

[00:28:22] Rury: No. You know what? Yeah. I come, actually, when I was a kid growing up, it was my job to entertain the family. Yeah, yeah. And then like, they’d have these big sort of family get togethers. My mum’s side of the family, my mum had like 10 brothers and sisters, so, and then I’d all my cousins and Wow. And yeah, I was a wee guy and I was like an entertainer.

[00:28:40] Rury: But not nobody’s ever said, oh yeah, good storyteller, boss boys. I, but they’re 

[00:28:43] Aaron: cracking up and they’re like, another one, they’re next. 

[00:28:46] Rury: So I’m back. Yeah, no, 

[00:28:47] Brad: no, it true dude. It’s, the thing is like, I, like, I’ve, I’ve experienced this with some o some other people, mutual friends of ours. Yeah. Where they’re telling a story and I can perfectly, like, I’m just.

[00:28:56] Brad: The, the, the image that they’re painting 

[00:28:59] Rury: right. 

[00:28:59] Brad: Is [00:29:00] like, I’m like, I got it. 

[00:29:01] Rury: Yeah, yeah, 

[00:29:01] Brad: yeah, yeah. I see exactly what you’re saying. 

[00:29:03] Rury: Right. Got it. Right. I 

[00:29:04] Brad: that’s like, uh, I mean, it’s just a level of communication. 

[00:29:07] Rury: Yeah, yeah. 

[00:29:08] Brad: You know, but it’s like, really? I’m like, 

[00:29:11] Rury: right 

[00:29:11] Brad: when you’re talking, I’m just like, yeah, 

[00:29:13] Rury: Brad went to Clydes 

[00:29:14] Aaron: Bank there, Brad went to Clyde’s 

[00:29:15] Brad: Bank.

[00:29:15] Brad: I went to Clyde’s Bank. 

[00:29:16] Rury: Clydebank. Yeah. Clydebank 

[00:29:18] Brad: Clydebank and, and the tar and the tarmac and the school and the Stars. 

[00:29:20] Rury: Anyway, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That I, so, yeah. Well, I, I, I moved on to like LSD uh, yeah. And stuff. And then I remember 

[00:29:28] Brad: Was that in the, in the teenage years, or 

[00:29:30] Rury: was that Yeah, I was still like. I mean, I, I was done with drugs when I was a bit 18.

[00:29:34] Rury: Like I had, had like, I was done. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But I remember like, there’s Francis 

[00:29:38] Aaron: experience. I had a very similar experience after the whole, the Scientology thing and Francis and everything else. 

[00:29:41] Rury: Yeah. Yeah. That was kinda like I’d, after I did that detox thing mm-hmm. I was, I, I made a promise to myself, I’m never gonna take drugs again.

[00:29:47] Rury: Mm-hmm. Wow. And then I did go back to alcohol and then I had to do like the detox and it was just like, I wasn’t fully there, but I was able to just be myself. Mm-hmm. You know, sort of thing. It was like, not, not as much [00:30:00] alcohol as like before, but I went to university. It was like, 

[00:30:02] Brad: yeah. 

[00:30:03] Rury: But I was like, when I was doing, I don’t want any, like when you’re, when you do drugs and stuff, a lot of like LSD, hallucinogenics, a lot of stuff comes up, you know, in your life.

[00:30:13] Rury: What the hell, like 

[00:30:15] Brad: mm-hmm. 

[00:30:15] Rury: I mean, I remember looking at a guy and he was like a gorilla. Yeah. Like a gor, like a perfect gorilla. And I thought, I’ve never seen a gorilla before. Like, where the hell is this? Like, where’s this coming from? Like, 

[00:30:26] Brad: I 

[00:30:26] Rury: was like, what’s like, 

[00:30:28] Brad: dude, that’s a great question. 

[00:30:29] Rury: Yeah. Like, 

[00:30:30] Brad: you see something you’ve never actually seen in person before.

[00:30:33] Rury: Yeah. I, 

[00:30:33] where’s 

[00:30:33] Brad: that coming 

[00:30:34] Rury: from? Well, the thing is, when I was, I remember I was about five or six, I dunno how it managed it, but my mum took me to see return the Jedi in the cinema. 

[00:30:41] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:30:42] Rury: And afterwards I was like, really upset, like, what was going on? And she’s like, it’s not real. And I was like, but what?

[00:30:51] Rury: It is real, like, she’s like, no, no. The, they’re actors this, that thing you see is not, they’re, they’re, they’re real people, but they’re playing a [00:31:00] part. 

[00:31:00] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:31:00] Rury: And I said, but like, so the guys aren’t real in the spaceship 

[00:31:03] Brad: is the return of the Jedi, the, the fir, the first of the old ones, 

[00:31:07] Rury: eh, third tank. Uh 

[00:31:09] Brad: oh.

[00:31:09] Brad: So it’s the last one. 

[00:31:10] Rury: Maybe it’s, oh, I had a 

[00:31:11] Brad: happy ending. 

[00:31:11] Rury: I, well, I can’t, the, the thing was that it was, there was like Darth Vader. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was bad guys. There was like spaceships, all this stuff, right? Mm-hmm. So I’m sitting bothered about this as a kid. Mm-hmm. And then I said like, like, you know, to my mum, like, and she goes, it’s not real.

[00:31:28] Rury: And then I said, but how isn’t? She said, it’s just people’s imagination. And then I said, but where does that imagination come from? And then she couldn’t answer that one. And I was like, I’m sure these guys are remembering, like, this is my, a small age. 

[00:31:44] Brad: Wow. 

[00:31:44] Rury: And then when I take drugs and I see all this stuff, I’m like, what’s.

[00:31:48] Rury: Then it was like, I started kind of thinking like I’d actually, this is not, that’s actually untrue. When I was like a kid at school, I remember looking down the school bus 

[00:31:59] Aaron: mm-hmm. [00:32:00] 

[00:32:00] Rury: At all the children on the bus. And there was like a little guy, you know, perched over the back of seat talking to some other kids.

[00:32:06] Rury: And I’m looking at all these kids just chatting to each other on the bus. We’re going home, it’s like three 30. And I remember looking the, all the children, I’m sitting up the back of the bus ’cause that’s where like the cool guy sat or whatever. 

[00:32:18] Brad: Yeah, yeah. 

[00:32:19] Rury: And I’m sitting, going, 

[00:32:20] Brad: troublemakers. 

[00:32:21] Rury: Yeah. But I’m sitting looking at all these kids and I’m going, what are we doing?

[00:32:24] Rury: Like what I, I, I thought, what are we doing? Like I get, we go to school and then we get a job. Maybe we get married, we go on holiday and stuff like that. And then like, we retire and we die. Like, but what, what are we doing? Like, and then I thought, does anyone else think like me? 

[00:32:44] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:32:44] Rury: And I, it was a very lonely thought.

[00:32:47] Rury: Mm. Because I’ve, whenever I spoke to folk, they’re like, what are you talking about? And I’m like, but like, like, we live and die. But what’s the purpose then?[00:33:00] 

[00:33:00] Rury: Think 

[00:33:00] Aaron: of a joint. 

[00:33:01] Rury: Yeah. Whatever. And sometimes it would be like, ah, like, let’s get drunk. And then when they were drunk, they’d maybe talk about it. 

[00:33:08] Brad: Yeah, yeah, 

[00:33:09] Rury: yeah. Oh yeah. And I was like, oh, they cannot talk about it when we’re drunk about it. But can nobody can talk about it sober. Can I? Yeah. And I was just like, I, I thought there’s got to be something I, or, and then I thought, maybe there isn’t.

[00:33:20] Rury: And I was like, this is pretty hellish. Yeah. Like this is, 

[00:33:24] Brad: yeah. 

[00:33:25] Rury: And then it wasn’t until like I found dietetics that I, I found out that I could remember past lives. 

[00:33:32] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:33:33] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:33:33] Rury: And I started remembering. Previous existences, which just absolutely blew me away that I, I was like, ah, like, and it, it made sense to me.

[00:33:44] Rury: But then I still thought, but what? Like, okay, we’ve lived before, we’re living here. What the hell are we up to? Like, I still had like, so like, and just gradually I was doing Scientology learning more and more and more, and I was like, this is the stuff for me, man. It’s like, this has given me some good answers [00:34:00] about life, but not only that, it, this is how I built my business.

[00:34:04] Rury: Mm-hmm. Like a guy, El Ron Hubbard says, look, you want to let start a business or you want to start an organization, you know, this is how you start it and these are the steps you go through. And he made it all these beautiful gradients. It’s like, okay, I’ll start a business. Oh, mm-hmm. Let me see if this stuff that I’m reading works here.

[00:34:20] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:34:20] Rury: Because it worked for my mind and it worked for like mm-hmm. My emotions. Let’s see if it worked in business. And I started applying it. And I think like. That’s probably, I’ve been doing like my own businesses now, like 20 years, but I’ve got like 300 staff now. Wow. You know, I’ve got like four or five different businesses and different fields that I can manage.

[00:34:41] Rury: Mm-hmm. Like, and sit here in a different country and talk to you guys for a couple hours and it’s like they’re still Yeah. Your businesses are all back in the uk. In the uk. Yeah. But that like, wow. 

[00:34:49] Aaron: It’s amazing. I saw a picture of your staff. It’s incredible. 

[00:34:52] Brad: I saw a picture of the, did you 

[00:34:53] Aaron: see the trucks?

[00:34:53] Aaron: That’s incredible. Yeah. You see the truck line up stuff like, boom, like, here we go. I mean, whatever. It just seemed like these amazing people [00:35:00] going and doing great jobs, like your businesses are all good stuff. It’s not like you don’t have the, the, the news agency, you know what 

[00:35:06] Rury: I mean? Not selling alcohol, 

[00:35:08] Aaron: you know what I mean?

[00:35:08] Aaron: Like No, no. You’re like cleaning people’s living, bringing up their standards of life. I mean, honestly, the work that you’re doing is incredible. All 

[00:35:15] Rury: yeah, no, it’s good. I, I take real enjoyment in building systems, building systems, building flows, building organization like, I like that challenge and I. I love taking something and making it bigger and better.

[00:35:28] Rury: Mm-hmm. I’m, I’m not so good at like, starting from scratch. I started like something from scratch this year and it’s done great. It’s at like two and a half million. Wow. Now, like annual and it’ll grow, but, so, but I’m learning how to start from scratch. But normally what it would like, my, the biggest company I’ve got, the, the gutters, Ben’s gutters was started by another guy.

[00:35:48] Rury: He started the business, built it up, worked out all the promotion and marking it, never worked out for him, whatever. And then we kind of bought the remnants and built it up. But he had this sort, 

[00:35:59] Aaron: the 

[00:35:59] Rury: [00:36:00] vision, the vision, the ingenuity, work it all out. And so I kind of came on board and then kind of took that and made it bigger.

[00:36:06] Rury: So, but it’s something I’ve always wanted to do is try and start stuff, build it up, you know, it’s the same, like I’ve got like veterinary practices again, it’s an existing thing. Uh, Sharon, my business partner, she’s a vet. So then she was an excellent vet, really good. And then I said, well, you want to get a practice won?

[00:36:24] Rury: She’s like, yeah. And then we ended up with got three, like in a short period of time. We’re looking at two more just now in present. But again, just like that’s a kinda an area that I don’t have any experience with. But then just learning how that works, how they promote, how they market, what sort of, uh, technical expertise the vets needs.

[00:36:43] Rury: What sort of equipment, you know. I’m passionate about animals. I love animals, man. Dogs, cats, sheep. That I’ve got everything. Yeah, you have 

[00:36:51] Aaron: everything, 

[00:36:51] Rury: right? Yeah. Yeah. Got loads of animals. You got goats. Yeah. So I like, so there is some interest there on that aspect as well. ’cause vets sell site [00:37:00] drugs. I didn’t know like 

[00:37:00] Aaron: stop 

[00:37:02] Rury: animals.

[00:37:02] Rury: 100% antidepressants for animals. Stop. No, no. Like if your dog’s depressed, seriously? Uh, stop. We don’t that, 

[00:37:10] Brad: that would piss Caesar Milan off. 

[00:37:11] Rury: Oh, that would man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. As sedatives, like if you’re traveling, give them a sedative like 

[00:37:17] Brad: Oh, 

[00:37:17] Rury: like, like just like Yeah. And uh, so 

[00:37:21] Aaron: Xanax for dogs. 

[00:37:22] Rury: Yeah.

[00:37:23] Rury: Sort of that sort of stuff. High. So anyway, we are kinda crazy. 

[00:37:26] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:37:27] Rury: Churn and all that’s not against, it would take a bit more of a. Like a holistic approach. Mm-hmm. The vets are doing amazing and, and we’re continually grow in that, so I like that. I don’t, I just, I don’t want like dogs and cats and stuff getting drugged up.

[00:37:41] Rury: Jesus Christ, man. 

[00:37:42] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:37:43] Rury: It’s not my thing. Yeah, for sure. It’s making money off them. It’s like, yeah. 

[00:37:47] Aaron: Yeah. It’s like how much you have to convince people. That a goat ne needs a a, I dunno. 

[00:37:53] Rury: Well, the thing is, is there’s a lot of, just now, like one in four people, one in four adults in Scotland are on psychiatric drugs.

[00:37:59] Rury: [00:38:00] Yeah. And the rest thing is even maybe higher. Right. But then if, if you are on psych drugs, yeah. But if you’re on psychiatric drugs and you maybe feel depression, your dog looks a bit depressed. Well, if it’s real for you that, that, that, that’s where you show pictures of dogs and owners look like them.

[00:38:15] Rury: It’s just that phenomenal. It’s like that. So it’s like, but then they, if you’re taking 

[00:38:18] Aaron: it, you give it to your dogs. 

[00:38:19] Rury: Yeah, they might. I’m a bit depressed. My dog’s a bit depressed. Dog. Give it to like Yeah. And the, the uh, yeah, the, the physical impacts on the, on the animals is pretty horrendous. Yeah, 

[00:38:28] Brad: yeah.

[00:38:28] Rury: Yeah. Their gums and their, their kidneys and all that. It’s just their body trying to process these drugs. It’s like, it’s tough. Anyway. 

[00:38:36] Aaron: Okay, fine. So maybe let’s depressing, let’s get to another not depressing topic. 

[00:38:40] Rury: Yes. 

[00:38:40] Aaron: So, look, you finally, did you, did you ever find your, your ghetto friend? 

[00:38:43] Rury: Girl. Yeah, I did.

[00:38:44] Rury: Yeah, you did. Yeah, we, I found her, uh, you can hear 

[00:38:48] Aaron: when he turns 

[00:38:49] Rury: it on R set. 17 years ago somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I want some water. Uh, yeah. We, we met about 17 years ago. I got like three beautiful babies. Like, well, my eldest Maya, [00:39:00] she’s 10. Cool. Seven and rains one and a half. Awesome. And, um, yeah, I dunno if we’re, dunno if we’re done yet or not, but like, going back, like I never even, I couldn’t even conceive of me being like a father.

[00:39:14] Rury: Right. You know, or a husband like, like I could, I just, that was just, I couldn’t even think like that. I wasn’t up to the point of thinking about being li responsible or 

[00:39:24] Brad: when did that change? 

[00:39:25] Rury: That’s a good question. When my wife forced me to change,

[00:39:31] Rury: she actually did. She’s like, we’re having kids, or, or I’m like, oh, okay. And then it was like, thank God, man. Yeah. Like my daughter, my first daughter Maya, like, I mean, my kids are amazing. Like my Maya’s like. So special man. Just, ugh. Being a dad’s like the best thing man. Yeah. It’s so bloody. It’s the best thing.

[00:39:49] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:39:50] Rury: The best thing, man. I love it so much, man. It’s like I miss my kids just now. I’m getting little video updates every day and they’re telling me how they’re helping their mom and all that. I’m like, I’m like, I’m gonna bring you [00:40:00] back toys and say don’t bring them anymore. You’re spoiling them. 

[00:40:03] Aaron: Whatcha 

[00:40:04] Rury: gonna, 

[00:40:05] Aaron: oh my God.

[00:40:06] Aaron: And um. How did you, how did you meet your wife? 

[00:40:11] Rury: Just in the Scientology place. In Edinburgh? 

[00:40:14] Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:40:14] Rury: She walked in one day and was like this beautiful, young, tall girl. I was like, wow. Like, God, man, I’d like, I remember I looking at her once and think, God, if I could marry that girl, like I, I’d never want for anything else in my life, man.

[00:40:30] Rury: It’s like, yeah. And then, 

[00:40:31] Aaron: and you did? 

[00:40:32] Rury: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And 

[00:40:33] Aaron: she was walking in for the first time. Was she already 

[00:40:34] Rury: psychologist or No, her father was a Scientologist. Yeah. A really good guy. Like all these kids have done well and like he’s got, Sarah’s got two sisters and a brother and they’re all like super cool doing well, like, yeah.

[00:40:46] Rury: So yeah, I was lucky right place at the right time. 

[00:40:49] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:40:50] Aaron: That’s amazing. 

[00:40:50] Rury: Wow. Yeah. 

[00:40:51] Aaron: I do have to say there’s like this thing about like Scientology girls. Scientology s psychology are beautiful. I just have to say, like my wife, I found my wife at the church. 

[00:40:59] Rury: [00:41:00] Yeah. 

[00:41:00] Aaron: Uh, I dunno about yet. I forgot about you. But either way it’s all good.

[00:41:03] Aaron: It’s all good. But I just have to say, there’s like this rumor, there’s like this thing like, oh my gosh. Like, because Scientology, you take care of yourself when you, when you take care of your own body, you take care of, you know what I mean? And like, you’re gonna be a, a big deal. You know what I mean?

[00:41:15] Aaron: Course. I just have to say so you guys are right. 

[00:41:17] Brad: Selligent 

[00:41:18] Aaron: girls are amazing. 

[00:41:18] Brad: Like, it also, like how old are you, Rury? 

[00:41:21] Rury: 47. 

[00:41:22] Brad: Jesus. God. Yeah. Why is that? Older or 

[00:41:24] Aaron: young? 

[00:41:26] Brad: Old. A lot older than you. Look, so that’s the other thing, that’s the other thing about Scientology. No, seriously. Like it keeps, it keeps you young.

[00:41:32] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:41:32] Brad: So like, I’ll, I’ll see women sometimes at the, at the church and, and I’ll, we will talk or whatever, and I’ll ask ’em how old they, they’ll be like, oh, I’m 57 and I’m like. 

[00:41:40] Rury: Yeah, it’s ridiculous. No, but I think like, like, I mean, even thing like Grant Gado and Tom CRuryse. Oh, these guys like, yeah, look at those guys.

[00:41:48] Rury: Mid sixties. It’s like, I’ve got a picture with Tom CRuryse. I look like I’m his dad. You know what I mean? It’s like, but like, no, just, I mean, the thing I found as well is like [00:42:00] your ability to kinda control your body to start eating better, that gets better as well. You know, just, but the main thing, like you’re talking about like Scientology girls or whatever, but it’s like we, I 

[00:42:15] Aaron: don’t wanna, I’m not looking at the Scientology 

[00:42:16] Rury: boys.

[00:42:16] Rury: Yeah, but No, no, I get it. But, but they maybe are, but then the whole point is we, we we’re learning how to be more ethical. We’re, we’re overcoming these barriers to stop us being like, like, uh, unethical, you know? And it’s like through you, you kinda. You’re not worried about like infidelity. Mm-hmm. You’re not worried about all this weird that goes on in normal life.

[00:42:40] Rury: ’cause like everyone’s on the same page. That’s right. We’re all trying to help society and working bigger goals. We’re not interested in some funky going on in the background and, and like, probably the percentages in Scientology, probably like 0.5% of people that would maybe be involved in that sort of situation.

[00:42:57] Rury: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Whereas like nearly everyone, [00:43:00] you know, and you, you probably push maybe higher percentage than what I said is improving their life. Mm-hmm. You know, improving their family, improving their business, improving their community, like working in the volunteer sector, like out there, making a difference, making a change.

[00:43:15] Rury: That’s their focus. They’re on like growth of that. They’re not. On some weird path, trying to like do some dodgy stuff behind people’s back. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Like, that just doesn’t exist in, in our group, you know? And, and the more Scientology and the more dietetics you do, the stronger you become in your mind that you can really apply yourself to like stuff that’s positive and that’s, that’s making a difference rather than, I, I mean, I’m like, back in the day I used to just watch.

[00:43:41] Rury: Hmm. Just watch, like 

[00:43:43] Aaron: Yeah. 

[00:43:43] Rury: Every couple of nights just watch. Yeah. Like, like, and like, I was like addicted, like I had to watch it. Mm-hmm. It was like I couldn’t even control my own thoughts and my own body. Stop it. Mm-hmm. You know, it’s like when I was drinking alcohol, like, it’s like I had to drink alcohol.

[00:43:57] Rury: Like the concept or idea of me [00:44:00] not drinking alcohol, I couldn’t think like mm-hmm. I could not compute an idea where I’d never need like, alcohol at least once a week. 

[00:44:08] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:44:10] Rury: Then it’s like, I’m at this point now where it’s like, I, I never really take it. Mm-hmm. Maybe a wedding might have a cup of drinks, maybe maybe a glass of wine if you’re in or you’re having a nice meal, maybe.

[00:44:19] Rury: But that whole concept, all these sort of things were, you were doing things that you didn’t really want to do. Mm-hmm. Cheating used to cheat. You used to have a, a girlfriend and then go with someone else and Yeah. But I want to be with a girlfriend, but I’m cheap. Like, what’s, what’s like crazy? 

[00:44:36] Brad: Dude, I, I remember really early on, for me, the thing was a big issue for me.

[00:44:40] Brad: Yeah. Pre Scientology. Excuse me. And same thing, it was like, just couldn’t, couldn’t imagine myself not, didn’t wanna do it. Yeah. Like, I actually feel, would feel dirty, would feel like, yeah, what the fuck? What am I doing? I said, watch the 

[00:44:52] Rury: scream. 

[00:44:52] Brad: Yeah. Like, where’s the real 

[00:44:54] Rury: deal? 

[00:44:54] Brad: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It’s like, and then I remember at one point, you [00:45:00] know, sitting there holding the cans talking, and at one point I just literally like realized, I was like, oh my.

[00:45:07] Brad: I don’t have to do this. 

[00:45:08] Rury: Mm-hmm. 

[00:45:09] Brad: Mm-hmm. And it was just like, it was, it was so weird. It was literally like a, like a switch flipped. I had, I, to this day, I don’t even know exactly whatever it was, a decision change or something like that. And like from that point on, nothing. 

[00:45:22] Rury: That was it. Yeah. 

[00:45:23] Brad: But it, but it’s not like a, oh, I have to hold myself that.

[00:45:26] Brad: Yeah. It’s like, it’s like a, there’s no 

[00:45:29] Rury: desire. 

[00:45:29] Brad: Its like not interest, no need. 

[00:45:30] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:45:31] Brad: I think what it was is actually for me, I just saw that it was so destructive. I just got hit in the face with how destructive it was to me. Uh, so many times. Like I probably talked about it with the auditor a hundred times.

[00:45:41] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:45:42] Brad: And then finally I was maybe not a hundred, but you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thousand obviously a baby’s a thousand. And then, and then I finally, I was like, oh, wait a minute. I shouldn’t be doing this. Yeah. And then when I actually had my own realization, that’s the thing that I love about Scientology personally, is it helps you to have [00:46:00] your own realizations.

[00:46:01] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:46:02] Aaron: Yeah. 

[00:46:02] Brad: Like when you have that, sometimes 

[00:46:04] Aaron: it, sometimes it’s forced on you. Some, hold on, let me explain. I, I, lemme say this. No, because I, I, I wanna on this, go ahead. So check this out. 

[00:46:11] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:46:12] Aaron: In my scenario, the whole, like, before, like, 

[00:46:15] Rury: I can’t believe you watch 

[00:46:17] Aaron: to, to, no. 

[00:46:19] Rury: Hey. The, 

[00:46:19] Aaron: I was, hold on, hold on. I went to show up.

[00:46:22] Aaron: Okay. For work? 

[00:46:24] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:46:25] Aaron: And I guess I’d, I’d, I’d been there for like two months or something, and I was late the first time. I was late. And my boss is Scientologist. I’m actually working at the church this time. Okay. And he goes like, why are you late? And I’m like, P bro, mean, why am I late? Who cares? It’s like a volunteer job anyway.

[00:46:42] Aaron: Like, what do you, what do you want my case about? Dude? Like, I’m late. Like, what’s wrong with you, bro? He’s like, no, no, no, no. Tell me like, what’s going on? You’re this, you’re doing blah, you’re cheating. So I’m like, no, no, no. I nothing. And I, I’m starting to get pissed at this guy. I’m like, dude, I’m just late.

[00:46:57] Aaron: Lay off like, what’s wrong [00:47:00] with you? And he goes like. Were you watching? And I was like, yeah, so what? And he’s like, what? And I was like, last night, I’m like, hold on. Since I’d started there two months before, I hadn’t watched at all. Right. The longest time. I had never, I, I just stopped. I got too busy, bro.

[00:47:22] Aaron: And then 

[00:47:22] Rury: you just, 

[00:47:23] Aaron: one day and I’m late and I go, this is unbelievable. Like, I, I, you see, I, 

[00:47:29] Brad: yeah. 

[00:47:30] Aaron: For me to make that realize, I was so far from making the realization myself. 

[00:47:34] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:47:35] Aaron: But it was like, what’s going on there? And it was so obvious that that actually had happened. And I, and I, I shocked myself and I’m like, my whole life, it’s always been, this is harmless.

[00:47:47] Aaron: It’s good. All the boys, dude, every single person I know. I was, I don’t know, I was 18 then. 17, something like that. Every guy that I know, we had conversation in the school, dude. Like in the whole school, dude, 2000 people was like, one boy didn’t watch. Yeah. [00:48:00] I’m like, can watch some weird Yeah. He’s the weirdo whatcha talking about?

[00:48:04] Brad: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:48:06] Aaron: It, it was so beyond my reality that it was possible that that would actually be something bad because everybody 

[00:48:14] Rury: did, does 

[00:48:15] Aaron: everybody is involved. 

[00:48:16] Rury: That’s true. 

[00:48:17] Aaron: It’s true. So I just wanna say sometimes yeah, you, you could have your organization, but that, 

[00:48:19] Rury: that 

[00:48:20] Aaron: person, but sometimes it shho in your face.

[00:48:21] Aaron: Like, but I’m like, oh 

[00:48:24] Rury: yeah, but that’s, but that’s life. That’s life. It’s not, it’s not even really the church or something, but it’s like, often people can point something out to you, especially somebody you respect or whatever, and they can highlight something you, and you go, it’s a fair point. Like, like mm-hmm.

[00:48:40] Aaron: It 

[00:48:40] Rury: was a very fair point. Yeah. And you get, but you get that in all areas of your life, you know, like, why are you not getting money? Like, what’s wrong with you? Yeah, that’s true. And you’re like. 

[00:48:47] Aaron: Why you’re broke. You’re like, 

[00:48:47] Rury: what do you mean you broke 

[00:48:48] Aaron: his? 

[00:48:49] Rury: But my mates used to say, why have you not got a ghetto friend?

[00:48:52] Rury: Like, I don’t get how yet. And I’m like, but like, like, yeah, but 

[00:48:57] you’re 

[00:48:57] Brad: like, I can’t find the ghetto on the map. 

[00:48:59] Rury: No, no. It was just [00:49:00] like, I was like, I’m scared. I dunno what the I did like, but Yeah. But, but it’s true. It’s just like, I, I on the point, I mean, really if you look at it and you, if you look at people in your life and you, you see different people, uh, throughout your life that have done things in business or in life and you see, and you admire it.

[00:49:24] Rury: Like you see somebody that’s maybe in a relationship. I used to go to parties and I’d be looking about for different women, and then I’d see this guy or a girl and they’re just sitting together. 

[00:49:34] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:49:34] Rury: And like chatting and I’m going about like looking for different women. And then I see these couples like just chatting and I’m like.

[00:49:44] Rury: Right. I don’t, to be honest, I’d much rather be that guy. Mm-hmm. Like just with someone content. And when I saw it in life, that’s actually who I’m, it’s like you see it in others. There was a, there was a guy I was working [00:50:00] for when I was younger and we we’re trying, he was trying to get like a computer system built for the, the business and the computer programmer guy said, no, you can’t do that.

[00:50:09] Rury: And then afterwards he’s telling me, I’m gonna go and look for another computer programmer. 

[00:50:13] Brad: Mm. 

[00:50:13] Rury: But I was like, I went, wow, look at that persistence. Like this guy wants this and he’s going to go and get it. I would’ve stopped when the guy said, you can’t do that. That’s the point where I would’ve stopped.

[00:50:23] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:50:23] Rury: And I saw, I looked at the guy and I’m thinking, I like that. 

[00:50:27] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:50:28] Rury: But that’s kind of who I’m, it’s like I looked at the, the guy and the girl together. They were content and they’re at a party. They’re both not looking around. I’m like, I like that. That’s who I’m, and it’s like you, I think when you look about in life and you see people, how they’re behaving, what they’re doing, and the, the bit that kind of resonates with you is because that sort of vibration, when you resonates with them, it’s like, that is you.

[00:50:51] Rury: So I love going around and meeting guys. Mm-hmm. Like seeing you the other day. And he’s given me a tour of this place, and I’m like, and he’s got, [00:51:00] you know, these products and, and then he’s looking at other companies and he’s got investors and he’s got like this beautiful office and it’s all set up. I’m like, I, I want a bit of that.

[00:51:10] Rury: Mm-hmm. But that’s ’cause it’s me. And what I’ve realized through life is sometimes people aren’t up to a point where they can see. 

[00:51:18] Brad: Mm mm-hmm. 

[00:51:19] Rury: So then they, 

[00:51:19] Brad: yeah. 

[00:51:20] Rury: But when I’m doing all this stuff, Scientology and dietetics, it brings my sort awareness up and then I meet people. And I’m exposed to things, and I think that’s me.

[00:51:30] Rury: Like, I want to be like that. 

[00:51:32] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:51:33] Rury: And then I’ve got the tools to start moving towards it. So if you’re exposed to it and you can see it, you become it. So sometimes you say like, guys are forcing or something, but I think what it is, is it’s like they’re saying something or they’re highlighting something and it resonates when you, because that’s who you are.

[00:51:49] Rury: It’s in, you are, you see. 

[00:51:50] Brad: That’s right. 

[00:51:50] Rury: You know what I mean? Yeah. That’s why I think anyway, so 

[00:51:53] Brad: yeah, I agree. 

[00:51:54] Rury: The way I think, like, you know Elon Musk, right? Mm-hmm. His son, I think’s like autistic, but his son [00:52:00] said, how come the future doesn’t look like the future? And they start to make the cyber truck. Now, how can someone know what the future should look like?

[00:52:09] Rury: And a lot of us do, but it’s like, I think that’s 

[00:52:12] Brad: the question, bro. 

[00:52:14] Rury: That’s the fucking question. How can someone know what the future, future looks like? But, but the thing, unless they’ve seen it before. Yeah. But that’s it. But it’s like you, it’s like. Star Wars. 

[00:52:27] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:52:27] Rury: Mm-hmm. You can think with, it’s been in the past, you know, like you start, you look at, yeah.

[00:52:32] Brad: Why is that idea so acceptable? 

[00:52:33] Rury: Yeah. That’s a 

[00:52:34] Brad: great point. Well, I have to say, 

[00:52:36] Rury: the most acceptable, you look at the robots in the Tesla shop, you’re going, that’s the future. Like, we’re all gonna have them. They’re all gonna be, we all, we all know it. Mm-hmm. We’re all certain of it, bro. C. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. 

[00:52:47] Aaron: We should have been more certain about Bitcoin, bro.

[00:52:49] Aaron: 12 years ago. Damn it. But you know what I mean? Like we know it’s coming when we’re, I know. 

[00:52:56] Rury: What are we gonna talk 

[00:52:56] Aaron: about? Okay. Star Wars science fiction. The thing is [00:53:00] this whole science fiction world, all this stuff could be true. 

[00:53:06] Brad: Yeah, 

[00:53:06] Aaron: no, that’s like the whole point you guys are making, right? Like, 

[00:53:09] Brad: yeah, 

[00:53:09] Aaron: dude, I see a Star Wars General Palpatine bro.

[00:53:15] Aaron: The person who leads the big thing, who’s actually the evil guy. 

[00:53:18] Rury: Right. 

[00:53:18] Aaron: That, I mean, that’s real life dude. 

[00:53:20] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:53:20] Aaron: That’s real life. Like, I will tell you this, I worked 

[00:53:22] Rury: for that guy in the supermarket. It was a female Mrs. Pal or whatever. It’s, I,

[00:53:34] Aaron: I think, I think it’s way more mainstream. I don’t know why, dude, but like, I think it’s just people see it and, and yeah. Who knows. 

[00:53:40] Brad: Yeah. I was, I was talking to, I was talking to a, a friend of mine, actually, the fiance of a, of a close friend of mine, and she, her whole family is, um, Hindu, right. I think I wanna say Hindu.

[00:53:52] Brad: Mm-hmm. Right. A lot of Hindu people in India. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Chad. 

[00:53:55] Aaron: Oh yeah. 

[00:53:56] Brad: They’re a Hindu. They believe in reincarnation. 

[00:53:59] Rury: [00:54:00] Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

[00:54:00] Brad: Like 

[00:54:00] Rury: a hundred percent. 

[00:54:01] Brad: That is like a core tenet of that religion. 

[00:54:03] Rury: Bees Israel. 

[00:54:05] Brad: Buddhism as well. 

[00:54:05] Rury: Yeah, 

[00:54:06] Brad: yeah. Yes, that’s right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there’s a whole Dalai Lama test.

[00:54:09] Rury: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

[00:54:10] Brad: Right. You guys have heard about that? 

[00:54:11] Rury: No. 

[00:54:11] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:54:11] Aaron: You don’t know about Dal Lama test, bro. 

[00:54:13] Brad: The Dalai 

[00:54:13] Rury: Lama 

[00:54:14] Brad: test. Dalai Lama test. 

[00:54:15] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:54:16] Brad: So the, the idea is that the Dalai Lama is the same guy again and again. 

[00:54:21] Rury: Yeah. Right. 

[00:54:21] Brad: The way that they pick him 

[00:54:22] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:54:23] Brad: Is they take some of his belongings from his life.

[00:54:25] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:54:26] Brad: And they make, they take one thing that is his and a couple other things that aren’t his. Mm-hmm. And they give ’em to the potential Dalai Lama as a child. 

[00:54:32] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:54:33] Brad: Kids who show whatever potential. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have similar character, something. Right. And they put ’em all together and he has to pick the thing that was his, 

[00:54:43] Rury: yeah.

[00:54:43] Rury: Yeah, yeah. 

[00:54:43] Brad: And that’s the Dalai Lama. 

[00:54:44] Aaron: I think it’s more than one. ’cause one could just be Chance. I think it’s like a collection. It, it call that. So like, maybe there’s like 30 things and you gotta pick three. We need like Dalai Lama tastes, you know what I mean? That’s five I one 

[00:54:54] Brad: the Dalai. It’s, I wanted check out.

[00:54:56] Brad: But here’s the thing is like, earlier you were like, I loved [00:55:00] what, what you said about the, the reality of, of past lives to you. Um, like, to be honest, to me, previous to Scientology, pa, the past life thing wasn’t actually that real to me. I did have an experience where I, I did some, some psychedelic, like mu like basically took mushrooms and that.

[00:55:17] Brad: I was like, well, hold on. There’s something other than the body going on. At that point I was like, Hmm. I’m not in my body right now. 

[00:55:23] Rury: Yeah. 

[00:55:24] Brad: I experienced going into the earth, 

[00:55:26] Rury: but you, you know what I was thinking as well. Yeah. Which we should in a, well, we’re talking about all these drugs now, right? 

[00:55:31] Brad: Yeah, 

[00:55:32] Rury: yeah, yeah.

[00:55:32] Rury: I’ll add this. 

[00:55:32] Brad: Yeah, I 

[00:55:33] Rury: will. ’cause then I’m really please like. The depression mm-hmm. That experienced after taking LSD was bad man. Mm. 

[00:55:41] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:55:41] Rury: Yeah. Days and days of like emptiness, man. 

[00:55:44] Brad: Yeah. It 

[00:55:44] Rury: was like, 

[00:55:45] Brad: same for me. 

[00:55:45] Rury: Yeah. Like horrendous. Not worth it. No, not worth that. I 

[00:55:48] Aaron: You could experience that stuff.

[00:55:49] Aaron: Remember your past with somes guys. 

[00:55:52] Brad: Yep. Yeah. 

[00:55:52] Aaron: Yeah. You don’t need to take LSD 

[00:55:54] Brad: No, no. You can experience 

[00:55:55] Aaron: things, so let’s a disclaimer, right? 

[00:55:56] Brad: No, no. You can experience things way more intense than you’re gonna feel on any drug. Oh, fuck. [00:56:00] That’s my reality is it’s way more intense when you’re sober. Oh 

[00:56:02] Rury: man. Oh Christ.

[00:56:03] Rury: Yeah. Oh, we can just edit these, right? 

[00:56:06] Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We can 

[00:56:07] Rury: like, 

[00:56:08] Brad: yeah, 

[00:56:08] Rury: but I, I was just, I was kinda trying to think like, uh, the difference in like when you guy, like I’m thinking about us, like going self-employed, like all of us. Mm-hmm. And the. The mental torment you go through when you’re becoming self-employed.

[00:56:28] Rury: You know, when you, when you employ a bad seed, you guys ever employed a bad seed? Of course, 

[00:56:34] Brad: currently, 

[00:56:35] Rury: but, uh, but your staff are gonna be like, but like they’re gone pass 

[00:56:40] Brad: one, they’re 

[00:56:41] Rury: gone when you’re starting out and you, you employ someone that really caves you in. You know, it’s like mm-hmm. That, that was one of the things I learned about this stuff as well.

[00:56:49] Rury: How to let spot this and look for it. Mm-hmm. Because it was like I had a guy working for me in my first, in my second business. He was caving me in. I was like, and he was being a friend, but he was [00:57:00] just constantly saying how this customer, this didn’t work. The money, the hours, he really wants to help me, but he’s not earning enough and he doesn’t know if it’s gonna work.

[00:57:12] Rury: And this guy’s just playing on me, playing on my mind, and I’m, I’m waking up in the middle of the night, three, four in the morning, think I’m gonna lose everything here. I didn’t really have anything, but I’m like, I’m gonna lose everything and my girlfriend’s gonna leave me. I, I’m, I’m, I’m renting a house just now.

[00:57:27] Rury: All my friends are in, like, got jobs and doing well, and I’m trying to make this self-employed gig work. 

[00:57:34] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:57:34] Rury: Mm-hmm. It’s not working. And it’s like Scientology really helped me. You’re like. Really pinpoint these guys. Mm-hmm. You know, and, and what do they say and how do they act? And what’s their outcome and what’s around their people.

[00:57:49] Rury: And you learn all these different, uh, things about a, a social personality and an anti-social person. Mm-hmm. Personality, social is, we interact, the bus driver [00:58:00] drives the bus, the train driver drives the train. You know, the electrician fi fixes, the electricity builders build people and restaurants like people that are building society that work together and exchange.

[00:58:10] Rury: Then you’ve got these anti-social elements like criminals and like, and they’re not all walking about with like kind the black mask and the black white t-shirt is Yeah. Yeah. And it’s like you employ guys and you know, they say all the right stuff at the start and then you just fight the, you know, and they start, uh, uh, and it weighs you down.

[00:58:30] Rury: Mm-hmm. And you get one or two of these guys in your small businesses, it’s over. 

[00:58:34] Brad: Yep. 

[00:58:34] Rury: You know, and one of the things that I really, uh. Light about El Ron Hubbard stuff is, uh, this thing called the Hubbard Chart of human Evaluation. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And this thing shows you how people act, how good people act, how bad people act, what to look out for.

[00:58:51] Rury: Yeah. Indicators. And that’s like a Bible for me when I’m recRuryting. Mm-hmm. Because it’s like you have to have good guys with good intentions, you know? [00:59:00] Yeah. And sometimes people don’t always have good intentions. Yeah. And it’s like the impact of these guys on your, on your life, like 

[00:59:08] Brad: mm-hmm. 

[00:59:09] Rury: I, I’m thinking of one just now.

[00:59:10] Rury: I dunno if you guys have ever had it, you know, but I’ve had guys steal from me and, you know, they’re my friend. Mm-hmm. They’re stealing from me. Hey, I’m trying my best at the same time stealing, you know? And it’s like, yeah. 

[00:59:20] Aaron: And not really your friend, obviously. 

[00:59:21] Rury: Fuck yeah. I say that again. You know what I mean?

[00:59:24] Rury: But it’s like, but you guys have got employees. Lots of employees. Yeah. You’ve got a big company. It’s like, I, I, I even when I was starting out, I thought, God, how the hell. Do you have employees? Yeah. Like how without stress 

[00:59:40] Brad: mm-hmm. 

[00:59:40] Rury: Without being continually stressed by their lives and the, the problems that they, they give you and all that.

[00:59:46] Rury: I thought how they like, and a few times I was like, this isn’t worth it, man. I’m just getting a job. Yep. I’m just gonna a job. 

[00:59:51] Aaron: And that’s what they want at the end of the day. That’s what, that’s what they want. 

[00:59:54] Rury: Right. You gonna bounce between those two things. Yeah. Because 

[00:59:56] Brad: in that group that you had created, it’s destroyed.

[00:59:58] Brad: Yeah. When, when the leader gives [01:00:00] up, the group’s gone. It’s over. 

[01:00:01] Aaron: I will tell you the way I look at it is every job that you create is a massive contribution to the world. 

[01:00:10] Rury: Yeah. 

[01:00:11] Aaron: The amount of people that have had their first baby bought their first house, did like working for one of my companies 

[01:00:17] Rury: Yeah. 

[01:00:17] Aaron: Is a lot.

[01:00:18] Rury: Yeah. 

[01:00:18] Aaron: Right. And a in a lot of cases, like who knows what else they would’ve had. And so you have to just have that like, at least for me, have that like confidence in knowing that you’re doing a service like business. The business world is what builds everything. Yeah. Like governments. Okay, cool. There’s the police will protect people.

[01:00:36] Brad: Yeah. 

[01:00:36] Aaron: A lot of police do. There’s a, you know, there’s some jobs that government do, but even, even the, if you look at the government jobs, a lot of them use for-profit private companies for their work. Yeah, that’s right. You’re gonna build a railroad. Okay, cool. It’s a government job, but it’s actually the guys that do it are the business owners.

[01:00:53] Aaron: Yeah, yeah, 

[01:00:53] Brad: yeah. 

[01:00:53] Aaron: The apartment buildings, the housing, it’s done by people who business provide jobs. And so as a, as a, one of our [01:01:00] jobs is to make jobs. 

[01:01:01] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[01:01:01] Aaron: So jobs don’t just like, there’s work to be done everywhere. Mm-hmm. There’s an infinity amount of jobs everywhere that should be done, but nobody’s taking them on.

[01:01:09] Brad: Yeah. Yeah. 

[01:01:10] Aaron: And so, at least as a boss, that’s one of my jobs is like, Hey, I can put these things together and make a job for somebody. Mm-hmm. And when they take that, that’s, that is a gift to them. Yeah. And anyone who’s gonna say, or show or make you try to believe that you’re not doing enough. They don’t want you to make jobs.

[01:01:28] Rury: It’s good. Yeah, that’s 

[01:01:28] Aaron: right. Good. They want you to go back into your whole, 

[01:01:30] Rury: or be a one 

[01:01:31] Aaron: band and do whatever. Yeah. And, and go to work for the, the, the, the convenience store, right? 

[01:01:35] Rury: Yeah. Yeah. It’s true. It’s like guys online will attack me like, oh, you, they, you know, you’re too expensive. You know, big company.

[01:01:42] Rury: I do it cheaper and I’m like, oh, how many people you employ? You know, the guy sitting there on his own moan. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I’m like, there’s like 300 families that are impacted by what we do, what, what our companies do, what our businesses do. It’s like, and those families, you know, they’re all paying their [01:02:00] taxes and.

[01:02:01] Rury: Going to school and being part of society, it’s like, well, what are you contributing apart from being by yourself and moaning. 

[01:02:07] Brad: Yeah. 

[01:02:07] Rury: About how well I’m doing. Like, you know what I mean? 

[01:02:09] Brad: He’s, he’s contributing, helping flow attention to you. Oh my. 

[01:02:13] Rury: Yeah, it’s true. It’s true. 

[01:02:15] Aaron: Oh, okay. One question I wanna ask every guest, right?

[01:02:18] Aaron: So we have like a little clip here. What’s your favorite 

[01:02:20] Rury: food? 

[01:02:21] Aaron: Yeah. What, what is your favorite food? 

[01:02:23] Rury: What’s your favorite Probably version 

[01:02:25] of 

[01:02:25] Brad: potato. 

[01:02:26] Aaron: Okay. Nice, nice. So in your words, what is Scientology? 

[01:02:34] Rury: Uh, uh, probably just, okay. In my words what Scientology. Scientology is bringing out who you really are and, yeah.

[01:02:45] Aaron: Oh, the end. Okay. No, 

[01:02:46] Rury: no, no. That would be it. Just, just bringing out who you really are. Just bringing you out, and that’s all that’s ever done. Just brought more and more of me out. 

[01:02:55] Brad: Yeah. 

[01:02:55] Rury: It doesn’t change you, it doesn’t alter you. It just bring, it just kinda magnifies who you are [01:03:00] and, and. You get rid all this stuff that isn’t you, which is generally the crap stuff.

[01:03:05] Rury: Mm-hmm. That’s right. 

[01:03:06] Aaron: Nice. 

[01:03:07] Rury: Beautiful. 

[01:03:07] Aaron: Amazing. Well, Rury, thank you for coming to the show, dude. Thank you. It’s been amazing. 

[01:03:11] Rury: It was good, good fun. 

[01:03:13] Aaron: And, uh, that’s it. You okay? Last part in words. Oh, last parting words. 

[01:03:17] Rury: Yeah. 

[01:03:18] Aaron: What do you want? Tell someone, right? Now’s like, dude, what they, they don’t know what to do with their life.

[01:03:22] Aaron: Or like, Hey, what am I doing? I don’t know. Look at this guy. I could never do 40 million. I could, you know, I don’t know. I can’t find my girlfriend. 

[01:03:27] Rury: Well, uh, if you 

[01:03:28] Aaron: a 

[01:03:28] Rury: girlfriend. Yeah. 

[01:03:29] Aaron: So, 

[01:03:29] Rury: no. If you, I think if you’re, if you’re a bit frustrated with not building your business or not being in a relationship.

[01:03:43] Rury: Not able to achieve your goals. ’cause there’s so many different things. People do sports and business and there’s so many things. But if you’re frustrated and you’re looking for like tools or a vehicle to help you achieve your goals, then you know, use dietetics and Scientology. ’cause [01:04:00] they’re just two to help you improve the condition of your life.

[01:04:04] Rury: And that’s all it is. And that’s the truth, you know? And all the crap out there that says otherwise is just crap designed to stop you achieving your goals. Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah. So that would be my message. Just do a course, they’re on, they’re online, they’re free. 

[01:04:19] Brad: Yeah. 

[01:04:19] Rury: And apply it to your life and see if it works.

[01:04:22] Rury: And then that that’s all you need to do. 

[01:04:23] Brad: Yeah. You look for you. 

[01:04:25] Rury: Yeah. Well that’s it. 

[01:04:26] Aaron: Sweet guys. Amazing. 

[01:04:27] Rury: Cool. 

[01:04:27] Aaron: Peace.