Rury Macleod is one of the funniest people I’ve ever met. To be fully honest, being around him you’re pretty much going to be cracking up at least once, and half the time us Americans can’t understand fully what he’s saying because he’s fully Scottish.
I got to spend some time with him talking about how he started in Scientology, and it was quite a wild ride. He talked about growing up in Clydebank, his mother being put on really a powerful drug lithium, starting his first Dianetics session is Glasgow, Scotland with someone who cared enough to help him through his issues.
He’s met his wife at the Church of Scientology, and used the wisdom from the books and courses to start and grow his own businesses.
You can watch the entire interview on the podcast below (and follow him on social media, Rury on Instagram or on Facebook.
Transcript for the episode is below:
That’s all right, gentlemen. Say yes. And ladies or ladies and gentlemen, there is a very special individual called Rory. Rory Mloud on the show. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much. So, uh, this guy is an incredible human being. He definitely wears kilts and skirts. I mean, I don’t know the difference. No, here’s Hold on. But here’s the deal. His companies are doing over $40 million US in sales, which is what? 30 million quid as you say. Uh and and he has high high margins, bro. Higher than than our company. So I have to say I don’t know about that. Rich AF and he’s on our show. Rury, thank you. Thank you for having me America. Sorry. Okay. Thank you for having me here in the United States of America, guys. You’re welcome. On behalf of the United States of America. You’re welcome. Okay. Okay, so I got to say before we came on, Rury somehow can do like can turn his accent on and off. Like I watch your Instagram story all the time and it’s like fullon freaking Scottish. Yeah. Like Kerry Gold level. Yeah. You know that car gold? No, I don’t know who that is. It’s Irish. No, that’s Butter. Kerry Gold. Carrie Butter. Sorry. The butter. Yeah. It’s like that’s what I see on your Instagram story. Then you come over here and you can just speak like an American. Yeah. That’s because I have American in my blood. No, I don’t actually. I might. I don’t. No, I don’t think I do. No. So, so, so where you from? You said you’re like from the ghetto. No, like some like uh Well, we don’t Yeah. I mean, well, I not a very My hometown is a place called Clyde Bank. Clyde. Clyde Bank. Yeah. And it’s The reason why it’s called Clyde Bank is it’s on the banks of the Do you guys call banks banks in the side of the river? On the side of the river. Yeah. Yeah. Except we don’t really have very many rivers. Not many. Okay. So, Clyde Bank is on the banks of the river Clyde, which is probably the most famous river in Scotland. And actually, is that where they invented river dancing? No, that’s that’s Ireland, I think. River dance. Don’t know why it’s called river dance maybe. I don’t know. But but Clyde Bank is on the banks of the Clyde and the river Clyde at one point at the turn of the century produced like onethird of the ships on the planet in that one river. So it was like yeah it had hundreds of ship building yards and and it was heavy industry workingass like an amazing amazing place. So all up and down the Clyde they were producing ships. So Clyde Banks like my home town uh which is like predominantly like working class and then and then yeah we moved around a little bit but that’s what I would probably call home sort of sleep. Is that okay for you? Yeah. Is it okay for you? So, it’s kind of like a ghetto. But was it was it was it pretty I mean, did you grow up? I don’t like I think ghettos like Did I grow up I mean my dad was a teacher. How many fights did you get into before you were 18? Like that’s a good game. That’s a good I don’t know like fights before I don’t know like 20. Okay. Yeah. I mean that’s that’s that’s good. They’re good in the Actually after 18 there wasn’t many fights. Just maybe like one or two but okay that was just part of growing up sort of thing. Also, side note, but related to what we’re doing here, also a Scientologist. That’s correct. Yeah. Yeah. Scottish Scientologist. There’s Would you describe yourself as the Scottish Scientologist? No, no, no, no. There’s I had to ask. I mean, no. No. There’s There’s many more fine Scottish Scientologist. No, I know. I know. But Yeah. Yeah. I Who are the most famous Scottish Scientologists? I no I don’t know if there’s like famous Scottish Scientists but the guys that that um you that run the organization in Scotland and then also the some of the organizations in England are run by Scottish people so it makes sense that like cuz they’re cool. Yeah. Cool. Cool. So how did you get in Scientology?
How did I get in Scientology? Jeez, that’s a question. I mean fundamentally uh my father was uh given a book by a friend who was like an artist and then my dad quite liked it and then round about I don’t know maybe like 1718 or something like that I was like oh not in the year 1718 no just in the year 178 is that is that what I say no but like probably like kind of yeah when I was about 17 18 I was I was up to some naughty business on on sort of different areas and I I got uh like severe depression like proper uh fullon depression like that and uh like to the point where it was like I was crying and I I couldn’t stop. It was just like this huge sort of weight on me. I was a good guy but I was doing some not so good stuff and my like god now we’re going deep. My mother was like taken into a psychiatric hospital when I was nine. Oh wow. So yeah. So I kind of she was given a drug called lithium which is the same stuff uh that batteries are made out of. Yeah. And what it does is it solidifies like the nerve endings in the brain and the connection tissue and it like nullifies emotion and energy. So the person becomes more like the word would be like tractable. It’s like easier to control. And uh she was given this lithium. She was kind of like in a state where she was like hearing voices and they would say like schizophrenic. That’s after the lithium or before the lithium. Then she took the lithium and she just became like a zombie just pouring lots of weight just sat around the house and I kind of felt like the medicine I thought the medicine or the medication that’s what was working because it stopped her like talking to herself. But what it did is it just suppressed everything. So she had no ability to do anything. She just sat in the house and I would just watch her every day just sitting there drinking cups of tea and that’s all she would do. Yeah. And so when I got like depression really because I was being unethical and doing bad stuff and not being like true to myself, uh I knew that I couldn’t go to like a doctor cuz they’re going to just give me a a pill and I knew what the pills or the tablets or the stuff did because I saw what happened to my mom. And I wasn’t like religious per se in terms of like maybe I’ll just pray that this will go away or something like that. So I was stuck. I was really stuck. And I actually felt I I think it was about 18. I actually felt my life was over. I was like I’m not good at school. [Music] [ __ ] Well re I’m not good at school. I’m not good at being a criminal. And uh and so what like I’m 18 and I’m screwed. M and and I was just in this heavy depression. So my dad contacted the Scientology place in Edinburgh and then they put me on to a lady called Francis who was in Glasgow. She was the only Scientologist I think in Glasgow at the time and she delivered this stuff called Dionetics. Dia throughics mind and uh that’s the boy there. Yeah. Yeah. And I just like I went like I had a map and an address like it was like not had didn’t have phones or anything. I went into this like suburbian this household estate. I’m like what’s going on here? And I got the address and went up to the door like she can open the door and I was like Francis. She’s like yeah Rury. I was like yeah. She’s like come on in. And then there women’s house. I’m like what am I doing here man? And the first question she asked me I’ll never remember. I’ve always remembered it. She goes have you eaten? And I was like, “No.” And she’s like, “Okay.” And she made me a dinner. And I was like, and she had let some kids and her husband was like, “Uh, he built houses and all this sort of stuff.” And uh and then she just like um explained what we were going to do and explained some terms with me and I’ve got nothing to lose. I don’t care. Right. Okay. Fine. And uh she just started getting me to like remember stuff and talk about stuff. And to be honest, the first couple of like sessions they were okay. It was like fine. I didn’t looking back on it now, I was actually coming like up from like sort of a low level like depression and grief. And I kind of started to get up a bit into like uh I was a bit bored with it. And looking back now, you take boredom over like like despair any day of the week. But I hadn’t even noticed that. And it got to the point where I was like, and she’s like, “Okay.” You know, and she said, “Come back.” And I went back. She come back and come back. And it was like 3 days. And then like the fourth day or something, I decided that’s enough for me. Like I’m fine. Like And she said, “Okay, so come back.” And I was like, “Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’ll come back.” Like with no intention of coming back. I was going and and I went and it was like like the next like following Monday or something. And I’m sitting in my dad’s uh flat in a place called White Creek and Clay Bank. My dad goes to the door and he goes, “Rudy, it’s Francis.” And I was like I said, “What? She shouldn’t be coming to my house like that. Like that’s rude. Like like like and she come in, but she was a lovely woman.” I didn’t have the like balls to say like what? Like I was like, “Oh, hi France.” She’s like, “Hi.” Yeah. And um she had like this case with her. I was like it was like a suitcase. I was like what’s I’m looking at and then she like she pulls out this sort of there’s like a meter thing with like like a a needle and a dial and like some knobs and I’m like what the I’m like what the And she has these two like cans. still get like crocodile clips and wires and I’m like what the And then she goes, “Yeah, yeah, we’re going to do like the session.” I was like, “Okay.” And she’s like, “Hold the cans.” And I trusted her. I liked her a lot. She really helped me. So, it was like and she I could I knew she cared about me. So, I was like, “Fine.” I kind of I held the cans and uh she started asking me some stuff. Then I thought about something. I’m like, “I’m not I’m not telling her that.” like and then she goes, “What’s that?” I’m like, and I’m like, “Uh, and then I just kind of put it to the back of my mind and we keep on doing.” Then I think of this thing again. She goes again, she goes, “What’s that?” And I was like, I was like, “That thing that she’s got, that meter thing. When I think of something, she can see it.” I was like, I’m And I’m like, and then I was like, and then I was go I goes, and then I thought it again. She goes, that there. And I’m like, oh. I goes, look, okay, I’m going to tell you, but just just give me a minute. Like, and I’m like And I’m like, I’m going to tell her stuff like I’ve never talked about. Like, and I’m sitting going like she’s sitting just waiting. I’m like, okay. And I’m just building up the confidence just to like and I just went like just just balling. Yeah. And she knew fine well that she knew what she was doing and it was like and her control was so perfect. Yeah. and she just took me into a thing that I wasn’t looking at and I started to just feel this like incredible relief, you know, and and she just kept on going about it and then I started talking about stuff I’d never spoke to anyone about but with ease. And then she’s like, “Let you know, is there something like earlier?” Man, I just start talking about something earlier and I I spot this sort of decision I’ve made and these thoughts about losing and like life and and I I spotted this thing and then I realized at every point on the stuff that we talked about I’d made the same sort of decision up to present and I spotted it was like a sort of accordion that kind of went and I went and the the weight come up off my shoulders and I Fran, I need to go for a walk. Like, and she went, “Okay, on you go.” On, you know, I just walked out and I’m like, it was like 11:00 at night and I was walking through like the streets of Clay Bank like like the hills are aligned with the sound of music. It was like I was like and I just thought first of all I thought I’m so lucky cuz there’s something that works. Mhm. No hypnotism, no drugs, no faith, no just a process. Mhm. And I found the answer with her help from myself and it that depression just like woof came off and I came back and I thought,
I found something. I was like, I’m going to use this. Like I’m going to use this. I’m going to do this. Like I’m going to do more of this stuff cuz it was like that’s like degrading. I was going to say cuz it was kind of like a drug or something, but it was like it was just natural. You find your own answer and you find relief with the help of another looking at your mind. And I was like, h I’m I’m in. Like I was just at that point I was like, “Yep, going to do more of this stuff, man.” And wow. I mean, I actually did a bit. I learned how to communicate and I like did like some sort of detox sort of thing and like they got me in really good shape and I was like, “Cool. So now I’m going to go and meet loads of ladies and have some fun and then I’ll come back. And then I was like, “Oh, what are my not so good ideas?” Like I went off for like on and off for about seven years mucking around. Went to like art college and uni and all this. And then when I was about 26, 27 something, I was like, “Right, I’m going to do it for real.” And then gave it a real go at that point. Yeah. Yeah. And that’s actually when I started my first like my own business. My first time. Wow. Going into business. We did like uh communal stair well cleaning. So we’d clean like communal stairs in Edinburgh and Scotland. Yeah. Cleaning stairs. Cleaning cuz it’s like we have tenement buildings. I think you guys might call them brownstones or something like that. It’s like New York, you’ve got these or well in Scotland as well, you have these large sandstone apartment blocks. So you you you there’s a stairwell and you’ll have like eight or 16 or 24 uh apartments or flats we call them in a stairwell and they all connect to the one stairwell. Yeah. So then we would clean that communal stairwell and over there they don’t have running water or anything so they just throw the the That’s kind of true. I’m sorry I had to. I mean, I’ve seen some I’ve been to some of these castles, bro. No, I mean, back in the day in Edinburgh, they’d throw it out the window in the street, the toilet. They would die. I saw it in my history book. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn’t wasn’t the best. Well, did I have to say thank you, Francis? Uh, I don’t know if she’s still around. Fran. No, no, she’s she’s actually lives here in America. She’s Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Still in contact with her today, man. Like, amazing. Yeah. Amazing. Pulled you out. like the the thanks I have to give her for like turning up at my house like no no no I’m going to help this guy even if it’s uncomfortable like that level of help requires like balls you know like she just like I’m going to go at this guy’s house cuz she knew that she could get that that effect she knew she could like relieve me of that depression and she wasn’t willing to like back down even if I was trying to get out of it. And it’s like like if she if she didn’t have that confront and if she didn’t have that persistence then I don’t know what would have happened to me you know it wasn’t definitely wasn’t looking too great at that time you know. Yeah. Did you feel like um did you have any aspirations to greatness back then like any big dreams or big ideas or was it just kind of like life? Yeah. No, like the back then like my mother and father split up when uh I was about 10 sort of thing. My mom was not in a good shape. My father wasn’t really in great shape either kind of thing. And I was like uh a bit insular. Uh so I had a sister but I wasn’t very nice to her and she ended up going to another family. It kind of more or less raised her. M uh so my dream was to have now I’m going to say this word I say girlfriend right now when I say girlfriend you guys probably hear ghetto friend or something like that but it’s girlfriend oh hell yeah yeah but and in Scotland you say ghetto friend right your ghetto friend I read that ghetto friend I the reason why I knew that is I said to a guy this American guy I goes have you got a girl friend and he goes yeah sure and I was like, it’s a bit weird answer. I goes, “What’s her name?” And he goes, “Who?” And I went, “Your girlfriend.” And he went, “What?” And I was like, “What’s going on here?” I was like, I was like, “What is your girl friend’s name?” Like, what’s so complicated with that? And he looked at me and he’s like, “My friend from the ghetto.” And I was like, “What is this guy talking about?” And then I realized, “Oh.” And then I was like, “Oh, girlfriend.” He’s, “Oh, girlfriend. Girlfriend. You got a girlfriend?” And he’s like, “No.” I was like, “Oh, okay. Good.” But so your dream was to have a girlfriend. The dream was the the dream was to have a girlfriend. It was to it was to have someone that would love me and I’d love them. And for me that was like safety or something. So, uh, like my decision to buy clothes or how I wanted a car when I was older, it was like or I wanted to do well financially was all with the basis that I would get a girlfriend sort of thing. So, my I didn’t have ideas about greatness or I don’t I still don’t really have ideas about greatness, but I I I like to think how much I can try and help sort of thing. But uh at that time I was just purely kind of fixated on the concept of having someone to love like and that I could be with sort of thing and that would be like like safety or something like that.
So that’s what I was like that was like my primary goal growing up sort of thing. Uh but I had like uh necessity because like when my mother wasn’t doing well, my father was a teacher but he’d like separated so he had to pay for his own like place where he lived and where we lived. And he was probably on like 25 grand a year or something. Not a lot of money. So there was times where there was no money. There was times when there was no food. So like you’re going down to the kitchen and looking through the cupboards even though you’ve looked through the cupboards yesterday. There’s no food. There’s no food. So when I was like 12, I took on a job. Yeah. I was about 12 years old. I took on a job at a Pakistani news agent. Uh for 75 p an hour. A what? A Pakistani news agent. A Pakistan. Do you know what a new Oh, you guys were a newspaper place? No, it’s like a convenience store. Oh, convenience store. They call it a news agency. Yeah. Well, news a cuz you sold they they primarily sold newspapers but then they would sell some like fruit and veg and then they sell sold alcohol. So you’re selling alcohol at 12. Okay. I was stocking the I was stocking the shelves alcohol and I was really surprised how much alcohol got consumed. Jesus graciously. But I can’t keep in stock. It was Scotland. It’s true. It’s like jeez like just regulars coming in. Bottles of whiskey, bottles of vodka, bottles of gin. And I’m just stocking up these shelves. And I got like 75 p an hour and then you’d get like a 15minute break. I’d work there from like 6 to 10 in the evening. Sometimes a we bit earlier. I’d make bags of potatoes£3 pound a day. So you would literally make $3 a day something like that. I But that was okay. Quid. So probably like in this day four or five dollars. But yeah, I made I was I was working in there and uh that was that was like pretty tough and it wasn’t a lot of money actually. It was like god 75 p an hour you know and by the end of the week I’ maybe like I do like 15 or something. I was making like 10 12 quid sort of money and then I had a Sunday paper round and my dad really forced me to get it cuz he wanted me to like produce and make my he had this sort of idea that I should make my own way which was awesome. That was one of the biggest positive things my dad ever gave me. And so I would do the paper on the Sunday. It was like 12 quid and then I’d get like 12 quid from the the the convenience store the news agency the news a so I was making Pakistani news agents it’s called Madans it was the end of the v village of Dtoker uh but so then I’d have like 25 quid a week uh 24 quid ranging just depending and uh and that was that was kind of quite a decent amount of money so my dad actually gave me a nickname he started calling me regional old money bags. And then my friends heard him call me Reginald. So then my friends all started calling me Reg Reggie. And then that was my nickname growing up, Reg. And uh yeah, I just that was my my my jobs and I just kept them in. Then you that would pay for your alcohol and your drugs. I’d buy like weed, I’d buy alcohol and then I’d work. And then it was like Saturday night I’d get in a bad state and then you get maybe four hours sleep. You’d get up like terrible condition. Sunday morning paper. Sunday morning. Go deliver the papers, man. Then go back to bed, sleep. Wait, how old are you now? Like 12, 13. Yeah. Yeah. I Oh, the drugs and alcohol came in that early. Yeah. Yeah. I was Well, cuz he got the money that the he got the money, baby. Yeah. People, how did you find the guys to sell you like Where did you buy weed at the at the convenience store? No, it was just there was a guy there was some older guys in my street and then one day I just remember like they’re like, “Yeah, we’re going to smoke ganja.” You know, g they were like listening to Bob Marley or whatever and I’m like, “Oh, okay, fine.” Right. And uh and I was kind of like, it’s funny cuz I was like a little bit I had ideas about like past lives and spirituality and different things, but there was no like reality or connection or anything like that. Anyway, these boys are like, “Yeah, we’re going to buy we we called it hash at the time, and it was like it’s like the oil of marijuana hardened. So, it’s like we call it wax, right?” Yeah. you get it’s like it’s pretty hard but we we bought this and you get like you could get like an eighth or a quarter or like an ounce only a couple of times got announced cuz a lot but we we we went and bought like a half an eighth it was literally enough for like two joints and me this guy Michael and Chris moved down to the school was shut climbed over the fence got the skins out and like managed to build like a joint I’m like 11 or 12 something like that oh my gosh and like I smoke this thing take that a few hits and then like I’m stoned and I lie down on on the the tarmac of the playground of the school looking up at the stars and I kind of feel a bit like out of it like separated from my body kind of I’m sitting going wow this is this is awesome man just sitting there like and then I remember that night going home thinking oh I’m taking drugs like this thing that was told I was never to do I’m now I’m now a a drug user like I take drugs And it was like I remember thinking that’s me I’m taking drugs like I’ve made I’ve crossed that line and then that was So you just adopted the beingness of like hey I use drugs. Yeah. And it was kind of like to some of the other guys and all that. Yeah. Uh it was cool. And then most of the guys that were like good fighters or into drugs and alcohol they got the girls. The girls. No. They got the girls. Yeah. But so then I thought we talked about that on act dude in the same thing that’s that’s the thing the girl it’s somehow it’s a they’re connected bro. Yeah. Yeah. Well when I was growing up if you if you could like beat up guys and treat women badly like you’re going to get the best girls. Like so all these guys got the girls. But the thing is is I was so introverted. I’d just smoke weed and get drunk and I couldn’t get the girls. I’d be funny and everyone would laugh at me. But I was scared. Like my dad gave me like so much like you know he’d be like because he had a rough time and all he’d be like like listen if you choose the wrong one it’s over like you choose the wrong serious oh mate you choose like he’s talking about your mom just like I mean in a way he’s not saying that but yeah my dad was married before as well so it’s like but it’s like that the amount of pressure that was put on me and how I saw my mom and my mom and dad would have arguments and fights and it’s like dude if you pick the wrong one and then I’d maybe have a little girl I like she’d be like you just make sure you watch and I’d maybe be a bit stressed because she didn’t talk to me or something. Yeah, watch or something. I was like it’s a must have can’t have. Oh, it’s weird. Yeah, I just I was like so it was better just can I take drugs and then maybe something would happen kind of thing. And it was like years of that. I just just sat in my room. I had a computer. I had a motorbike when I was like 12. I sold it. Bought a computer. Worst move ever. So, I just play the computer every night of the week and then on Friday and Saturday go out, get like mashed and then uh you know just work or do my paper and that was it right up to like when I was 16 sort of thing. Wow. Then I got a got a job in a supermarket which was like278 an hour. like, “Oh, that’s a hu that’s a big jump.” And on a Sunday, they gave you double. It was like5 pound50. Let’s go. So, all right. That was like when I hit the big bucks. Yeah. Okay. So, do we mind you mind if we fast forward to today? Okay. So, what what changed between that between then and now other than everything? Yeah. What what’s what’s changed? How how do you go from where you are then? You start your business doing communal stair cleaning and now you’re here. Like I I saw I saw you fly to uh Utah a week or two ago on a PJ. Yeah. I see you on private jets all the time. Oh yeah. Okay. You can steal you can steal that. You can steal that from PJ. Got it. Yeah. So I mean the thing is is also actually I’m going to interrupt. I haven’t interrupted once. I need to interrupt. Dude, you’re an amazing storyteller. Oh yeah. Yeah. Have you always been able to do that? Have you ever Has anyone ever commented on that to you before? Uh, no. Not really. No. No. That’s such BS. Yeah, that’s BS, bro. That’s Dude, I’ve seen you tell a story with you talking about Tyler, for example. Yeah, I can, bro. No, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I can see I can perfect every single person like at this whatever event there’s like 50 people, everyone like cracking up like hurting their ribs and everyone’s coming to you, dude. That story. Oh my gosh. So you you can’t sit there with a straight face saying you haven’t told you you’re a good story. No, you know what? Yeah. Actually, when I was a kid growing up, it was my job to entertain the family. And then like they’d have these big sort of family gettogethers. My mom’s side of the family. My mom had like 10 brothers and sisters. So, and then I had all my cousins and yeah, I was a wee guy and I was like an entertainer. But no, nobody’s ever said, “Are you a good storyteller?” But I suppose I But they’re cracking up and they’re like, “Do another one. They’re next.” Yeah. Yeah. Dude, it’s the thing is like I like I’ve I’ve experienced this with some some other people, mutual friends of ours where they’re telling a story and I can perfectly like I’m just the the the image that they’re painting, right, is like I’m like I got it. Yeah. I see exactly what you’re saying. Right. Got it. Right. I that’s like uh I mean it’s just a level of communication. Yeah. You know, but it’s like really I’m like when you’re talking I’m just like Yeah. Brad there. Brad went to CL. I went to Clydesbank. Clyde Bank. Clyde Bank. And the tar and the tarmac and the school and the stars anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That I so well I I I moved on to like LSD and stuff.
And then I remember was that in the in the teenage years or was that Yeah. I was still like I mean I I was done with drugs when I was about 18. Like I like I was done like but I remember right after the whole the Scientology thing and Francis and everything else. Yeah. Yeah. That was kind of like I after I did that detox thing, I was I made a promise to myself I’m never going to take drugs again. And then I did go back to alcohol and then I had to do like the detox thing again. And it was just like I wasn’t fully there where I was able to just be myself, you know, sort of thing. It was like not not as much alcohol as like before, but I went to university. He was like, “Yeah, but I was like when I was doing I don’t want to like when you’re when you do drugs and stuff, a lot of like LSD, hallucinogenics, a lot of stuff comes up, you know, and you’re like what the hell?” Like Mhm. I mean, I remember looking at a guy and he was like a gorilla, like a like a perfect gorilla. And I thought, I’ve never seen a gorilla before. Like where the hell is this? Like where’s this coming from? Like I was like, what’s like dude that’s a great question. Yeah. like you see something you’ve never actually seen in person before. Yeah. Where’s that coming from? Well, the thing is when I was I remember I was about five or six. I don’t know how it managed it, but my mom took me to see Return of the Jedi in the cinema. Yeah. And afterwards I was like really upset like what was going on. And she’s like, “It’s not real.” And I was like, “But what? It is real.” Like she’s like, “No, no, the they’re actors. this that thing you see is not they’re they’re they’re real people but they’re playing a part. And I said but like so the guys aren’t real in the spaceship. Is Return of the Jedi the the fir the first of the old ones? Uh Third Tank. Uh oh. So it’s the last one maybe. So it has a happy ending. I Well, I can’t The thing was that it was there was like Darth Vader. There was bad guys. There was like spaceships. All this stuff, right? So, I’m sitting bothered about this as a kid. And then I said like like you know to my mom like and she goes it’s not real. And then I said but how is it? She said it’s just people’s imagination. And then I said but where does their imagination come from? And then she couldn’t answer that one. And I was like I’m sure these guys are remembering like this is my a small age. Wow. Then when I take drugs and I see all this stuff, I’m like, what’s And then I was like I started kind of thinking like I’d actually This is not That’s actually untrue. When I was like a kid at school, I remember looking down the school bus. Mhm. At all the children on the bus and there was like a little guy, you know, perched over the back of a seat talking to some other kids. And I’m looking at all these kids just chatting to each other on the bus. We’re going home. It’s like 3:30. And I remember looking at all the children. I’m sitting up the back of the bus because that’s where like the cool guy sat or whatever. And I’m sitting going troublemakers. Yeah. But I’m sitting looking at all these kids. I’m going what are we doing? Like what I I I thought what are we doing? Like I get we go to school and then we get a job. Maybe we get married, we go on holiday and stuff like that and then like we retire and we die. Like but what what are we doing? Like and then I thought, does anyone else think like me? And I it was a very lonely thought cuz I whenever I spoke to folk, they’re like, “What are you talking about?” And I’m like, “But like like we live and die, but what’s the purpose?” And a joint. Yeah. Whatever. And sometimes it would be like, “Oh, like let’s get drunk.” And then when they were drunk, they’d maybe talk about it. Yeah. And I was like, “Oh, can I talk about it when we’re drunk or what?” But can nobody can talk about it sober. Can I? And I was just like I I thought there’s got to be something or and then I thought maybe there isn’t. And I was like this is pretty hellish. Like this is Yeah. And then it wasn’t until like I found Dionetics that I I found out that I could remember past lives. Mhm. M and I started remembering previous existences which just absolutely blew me away that I I was like ah like and it it made sense to me but then I still thought but what like okay we’ve lived before we’re living what the hell are we up to like I still like so like and just gradually I was doing Scientology learning more and more and more and I was like this is the stuff for me man it’s like this has given me some good answers about life but not only that it this is how I built my business. Like a guy L. Ron Hubbard Hubard says, look, you want to start a business or you want to start an organization, you know, this is how you start it and these are the steps you go through. And he made it all these beautiful gradients. It’s like, okay, I’ll start a business. I’ll let me see if this stuff that I’m reading works here cuz it worked for my mind and it worked for like my emotions. Let’s see if it worked in business. And I started applying it. And I think like that’s probably I’ve been doing like my own businesses now like 20 years, but I’ve got like 300 staff now, you know? I’ve got like four or five different businesses in different fields that I can manage like and sit here in a different country and talk to you guys for a couple hours and it’s like they’re still Yeah. Your businesses are all back in the UK. In the UK. Yeah. But that it’s amazing. I saw a picture of your staff. It’s incredible. I saw a picture of the Did you see the truck? Incredible. Yeah. the truck like boom like here we go. I mean whatever. It just seemed like these amazing people going and doing great jobs. Like your businesses are all good stuff. It’s not like you don’t have the the the news agency alcohol. You know what I mean? Like no no you’re like cleaning people’s living bringing up their standards of life. I mean honestly the work that you’re doing is incredible. Yeah. No, it’s good. I I take real enjoyment building systems building systems. Building flows. Building organization. Like I like that challenge and I love I love taking something and making it bigger and better. I’m I’m not so good at like starting from scratch. I started like something from scratch this year and it’s done great. It’s at like 2 and a half million now like annual and it’ll grow. But so but I’m learning how to start from scratch. But normally what it would like my the biggest company I’ve got the the gutters Ben’s gutters was started by another guy. He started the business, built it up, worked out all the promotion and marketing. It never worked out for him, whatever. And then we kind of bought the remnants and built it up. But he had the sort of the vision, the vision, the ingenuity, work it all out. So I kind of came on board and then kind of took that and made it bigger. So it’s something I’ve always wanted to do is try and start stuff, build it up. You know, it’s the same like I’ve got like ventry practices again. It’s an existing thing. Sharon, my business partner, she’s a vet. So then she was an excellent vet, really good. And then I said, “Well, you want to get a practice your own?” She’s like, “Yeah.” And then we ended up we’ve got three like in a short period of time. We’re looking at two more just now in present. But again, just like that’s a kind of an area that I don’t have any experience with. But then just learning how it works, how they promote, how they market, what sort of technical expertise the vets needs, what sort of equipment, you know, I I’m passionate about animals. I love animals, man. Dogs, cats, sheep, I’ve got everything. Yeah. You have everything, right? Yeah. Yeah. Got loads of animals. So I was like, so there is some interest there on that aspect as well cuz vets sell psych drugs. I didn’t know like 100% anti-depressants for animals. Stop. No. No. Like if your dog’s depressed. Seriously. Uh, we don’t. That would piss Caesar Milan off. Oh, that would, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. As seditives. Like if you’re traveling, give them a sedative. Like like just like Yeah. And uh so Xanax for dogs. Yeah, sort of that sort of stuff. Hi. So, anyway, we’re kind of Sharon and all that’s not against it. We take a bit more of a like a holistic approach, but the vets are doing amazing and and we’re continuing to grow in that. So, I I like that. I don’t I just I don’t want like dogs and cats and stuff getting drugged up. Jesus Christ, man. Yeah. It’s not my thing. Yeah, for sure. Making money off them. It’s like Yeah. Yeah. Like how much you have to convince people that a goat need needs a I don’t know. Well, the thing is is there’s a lot of just now like one in four people one in four adults in Scotland are on psychiatric drugs in the US I think it’s maybe higher right but then if if you’re on psychiatric drugs Yeah. but if you’re on psychiatric drugs and you maybe feel depression your dog looks a bit depressed well if it’s real for you that that that where you show pictures of dogs and the owners look like them. It’s phenomenal. It’s like that. So it’s like but then you’re taking you give it to your dog. Yeah, they might. I’m a bit depressed. My dog’s a bit depressed. I’ll give it to like and the the Yeah. The physical impacts on the on the animals is pretty horrendous. Yeah. Their gums and their their kidneys and all that. It’s just their body trying to process these drugs.
It’s like it’s tough. Anyway. Okay. Fine. So maybe this depressing. Let’s get to another not depressing topic. So look, you find Did you Did you ever find your your ghetto friend girl? Yeah, I did. Yeah. Yeah. I found her. Uh, you can hear when he turns it on. 17 years ago, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I want some water. Yeah, we we met about 17 years ago. I got like three beautiful babies. Like, well, my eldest Ma, she’s 10, Cole’s seven, and Rain’s one and a half. And yeah, I don’t know if we’re don’t know if we’re done yet or not, but like going back like I never even I couldn’t even conceive of me being like a father, you know, or a husband like like I could I just that was just I couldn’t even think like that. I wasn’t up to the point of thinking about being responsible or When did that change? That’s a good question. When my wife forced me to change. [Laughter] She actually did. She’s like, “We’re having kids.” Or or I’m like, “Oh, okay.” And then it was like, “Thank God, man.” Like my daughter, my first daughter, Maya, like I mean, my kids are amazing. My Maya’s like so special, man. Just being a dad’s like the best thing, man. It’s so bloody It’s the best thing. The best thing, man. I love it so much, man. It’s like I miss my kids just now. I’m getting little video updates every day and they’re telling me how they’re helping their mom and all that. I’m like, I’m going to bring you back toys and say, “Don’t bring them anymore. You’re spoiling them. And um how did you how did you meet your wife? Just in the Scientology place in Edinburgh. Yeah. She walked in one day. I was like this beautiful young tall girl. I was like, “Wow.” It’s like, “God, man.” I like I remember looking at her once and think, “God, if I could marry that girl, like I’d never want for anything else in my life.” It’s like Yeah. And then and you did. Yeah. Yeah. And she was walking in for the first time. Was she already her father was a Scientologist? A really good guy. Like all these kids have done well. Like he’s got Sarah’s got two sisters and a brother and they’re all like super cool doing well. Like Yeah. So yeah, I was lucky. Right place at the right time. Yeah. That’s amazing. Wow. Yeah. I do have to say there’s like this thing about like Scientology girls. Scientology. Listen, Scientologist are beautiful. I just have to say like my wife I found my wife at the church. Yeah. Uh, I don’t know about you. I forgot about you. But either way, it’s all good. It’s all good. But I just have to say there’s like this rumor. There was like this thing like, oh my gosh, like because Scientology, you take care of yourself when when you take care of your own body, you take care of, you know what I mean? And like you’re going to be a a big deal. You know what I mean? I just have to say. So you guys are right. Girls are amazing. Like it also like How old are you, Rory? 47. Jeez. Yeah. Is that older or young? Yeah, it’s a lot older than you look. So that’s the other thing. That’s the other thing about Scientolo. No, seriously. Like it keeps it keeps you young. Yeah. So like I’ll I’ll see women sometimes at the at the church and and I’ll we’ll talk or whatever and I’ll ask them how old are they? They’ll be like, “Oh, I’m 57.” And I’m like, “Yeah, it’s ridiculous.” No, but I think like like I mean even thing like Grant Gado, Tom Cruz, all these guys like mid60s. It’s like I’ve got a picture with Tom Cruz. I look like I’m his dad, you know? It’s like but like no just I mean the thing I found as well is like your ability to kind of control your body to start eating better that gets better as well you know just but the main thing like you’re talking about like Scientology girls or whatever but it’s like we I’m not looking at the Scientology boys but no I get it but but they maybe are. But then the whole point is we we we’re learning how to be more ethical. We’re we’re overcoming these barriers to stop us being like like unethical, you know, and it’s like through you you kind of you’re not worried about like infidelity. You’re not worried about all this weird that goes on in normal life cuz like everyone’s on the same page. We’re all we’re all trying to help society and working bigger goals. were not interested in some funky going on in the background and and like probably the percentages in Scientology probably like 0.5% of people that would maybe be involved in that sort of situation whereas like nearly everyone you know and you you probably push maybe higher percentage than what I said is improving their life you know improving their family improving their business improving their community like working in the volunteer sector like out there making a difference making a change that’s They’re focused. They’re on like growth of that. They’re not on some weird path trying to like do some dodgy stuff behind people’s back. Like that just doesn’t exist in in our group, you know? And and the more Scientology and the more Dionetics you do, the stronger you become in your mind that you can really apply yourself to like stuff that’s positive and that’s that’s making a difference rather than I I mean I’m like back in the day I used to just watch just watch like every couple of nights just watch like like and like I was like addicted like I had to watch it. It’s I couldn’t even control my own thoughts and my own body to stop it, you know? It’s like when I was drinking alcohol, it’s like I had to drink alcohol.
Like the concept or idea of me not drinking alcohol. I couldn’t think like I could not compute an idea where I’d never need like alcohol at least once a week. Yeah. And then it’s like I’m at this point now where it’s like I I never really take it. Maybe a wedding might have a couple of drinks, maybe a glass of wine if you’re in Italy or you’re having a nice meal maybe. But that whole concept, all these sort of things where you were doing things that you didn’t really want to do, cheating, you used to cheat. You used to have a a girlfriend and then go with someone else and but I want to be with a girlfriend, but I’m cheat like what’s what’s like crazy. I I remember really early on for me the thing was a big issue for me pre-cientology. Excuse me. And same thing. It was like just couldn’t couldn’t imagine myself not didn’t want to do it. Like I actually didn’t feel would feel dirty would feel like what the am Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It’s like and then I remember at one point you know sitting there holding the cans talking and at one point I just literally like realized I was like oh my god I don’t have to do this. And it was just like it was it was so weird. It was literally like a like a switch flipped. I uh I to this day I don’t even know exact whatever a decision change or something like that and like from that point on nothing that was it but it but it’s not like a oh I have to hold myself back it’s like it’s like a there’s no desire need I think what it was is actually for me I just saw that it was so destructive I just got hit in the face with how destructive it was to me so many times like I probably talked about it with the auditor a hundred times. Yeah. And then finally I was maybe not 100 but you know obviously maybe a thousand and then and then I finally I was like oh wait a minute I shouldn’t be doing this. And then when I actually had my own realization that’s the thing that I love about Scientology personally is it helps you to have your own realizations. Yeah. Like when you have sometimes sometimes it’s forced on you some Hold on let me explain. I let me say this. No because I want I want to add on this. So check this out. Yeah, in my scenario the whole like before like I can’t believe you watch went to to no the I was I went to Hold on. Hold on. I went to show up. Okay. For work. Yeah. And I guess I I’d been there for like two months or something and I was late. The first time I was late and my boss is Scientologist. I’m actually working at the church this time. Okay. And he goes like, “Why are you late?” And I’m like, “Bro, what do you mean why am I late? Who cares? This is like a volunteer job anyway. Like what do you what do you want my case about, dude? Like I’m late. Like what’s wrong with you, bro? He’s like, “No, no, no, no. Tell me.” Like, “What’s going on? You’re this. You’re doing blah. You’re cheating.” Like, “No, no, no. I nothing.” And I I’m starting to get pissed at this guy. I’m like, “Dude, I’m just late off. Like, what’s wrong with you?” And he goes like, “Were you watching?” And I was like, “Yeah, so what?” And he’s like, “When?” I was like, last night and I’m like hold on since I started there two months before I hadn’t watched at all the longest time I’d never I I just stopped I got too busy bro and then you one day and I am late and I go this is unbelievable like I I you see I for me to make that realiz I was so far from making the realization myself but it was like what’s going on there and it was so obvious that that actually had happened and I and I I shocked myself and I’m like my whole life it’s always been this is harmless it’s good all the boys dude every single person I know I was I don’t know I was 18 then 17 something like that every guy that I know we had conversation in the school dude like in the whole school dude 200 people was like one boy that didn’t watch and I’m like why can’t you what are you talking about it it was so beyond ond my reality that it was possible that that would actually be something bad because everybody does everybody is involved. True. So I just want to say sometimes yeah you you could have your organization but that sometimes they shove it in your face like I’m like oh yeah but that’s but that’s life. That’s life. It’s not it’s not even really the church or something, but it’s like often people can point something out to you, especially somebody you respect or whatever. And they can highlight something you and you go it’s a fair point. Like like it was a very fair point. Yeah. And you get but you get that in all areas of your life, you know, like why are you not getting any money? Like what’s wrong with you? Like and you’re like, “Well, you’re broke.” You’re like, “What do you mean broke as my mates used to say, why have you not got a girlfriend?” Like I don’t get her yet.
I’m like, “Yeah, but you’re like, I can’t find the ghetto on the map.” No, no. It was just like I was like, I’m scared. I don’t know what the I’m doing. But but but it’s true. It’s just like I on the point. I mean really if you look at it and you if you look at people in your life and you you see different people uh throughout your life that have done things in business or in life and you see and you admire it like you see somebody that’s maybe in a relationship. I used to go to parties and I’d be looking about for different women and then I see this guy with a girl and they’re just sitting together and like chatting and I’m going about looking for different women and then I see these couples like just chatting. I’m like like I don’t to be honest I’d much rather be that guy like just with someone content and when I saw it in life that’s actually who I am. It’s like you see it in others. There was a there was a guy I was working for when I was younger and we were trying he was trying to get like a computer system built for the the business and the computer programmer guy said no you can’t do that. And then afterwards he’s telling me I’m going to go and look for another computer programmer. But I was like I went wow look at that persistence. Like this guy wants this and he’s going to go and get it. I would have stopped when the guy said you can’t do that. That’s the point where I would have stopped. And I saw I looked at the guy and I’m thinking I like that. But that’s kind of who I am. It’s like I looked at the the guy and the girl together and they were content and they’re at a party. They’re both not looking around. I’m like I like that. That’s who I am. And it’s like you I think when you look about in life and you see people how they’re behaving, what they’re doing. And the the bit that kind of resonates with you is because that sort of vibration within you resonates with them. It’s like that is you. So, I love going around and meeting guys like seeing you the other day and he’s giving me a tour of this place and I’m like and he’s got, you know, these products and and then he’s looking at other companies and he’s got investors and he’s got like this beautiful office and it’s all set up. I’m like, I want a bit of that. But that’s cuz it’s me. And what I’ve realized through life is sometimes people aren’t up to a point where they can see. M. So then, but when I’m doing all this stuff, Scientology, Dionetics, it brings my sort awareness up and then I meet people and I’m exposed to things and I think that’s me. Like I want to be like that. Mhm. And then I’ve got the tools to start moving towards it. So if you’re exposed to it and you can see it, you become it. So sometimes you say like guys are forcing or something. But I think what it is is it’s like they’re saying something or they’re highlighting something and it resonates with you because that’s who you are. You see that’s right. You know what I mean? That’s what I think anyway. So yeah, I agree. The way I think like you know Elon Musk, right? His son I think’s like autistic but his son said, “How come the future doesn’t look like the future?” And they start to make the cybert truck. Now how can someone know what the future should look like? And a lot of us do, but it’s like I think that’s the question, bro. That’s the question. How can someone know what the future looks like? But but the thing unless they’ve seen it before. Yeah. But that’s it. But it’s like you It’s like Star Wars. Yeah. Mhm. You can think with it’s been in the past, you know, like you start Yeah. Why is that idea so acceptable? Yeah, that’s a great point. Well, I have to say the most acceptable. You look at the robots in the Tesla shop, you’re going, “That’s the future.” Like, we’re all going to have them. They’re all going to be We all We all know it. We’re all certain of it. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. We should have been more certain about Bitcoin, bro, 12 years ago. Damn it. But you know what I mean? Like, we know it’s coming, but we’re What are we going to talk about? Okay. Star Wars, science fiction. The thing is, this whole science fiction world, all this stuff could be true. Yeah. You know, is that’s like the whole point you guys are making, right? Like, yeah, dude, I see a Star Wars General Palpatine, bro. The person who leads the big thing who’s actually the evil guy, right? That I mean, that’s real life, dude. Yeah, that’s real life. Like, I will tell you, I worked for that guy in the supermarket. It was a female, Mrs. Palpatine or whatever. I didn’t I think I think it’s way more mainstream. I don’t know why, dude. But like I think it’s just people see it and and and who knows. Yeah. I was I was talking to I was talking to uh a friend of mine actually the fiance of a of a close friend of mine and she her whole family is um Hindu I think. I want to say Hindu, right? A lot of Hindu people in India. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. They’re Hindu. They believe in reincarnation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like 100%. That is like a core tenant of that religion. Buddhism as well. Buddhism as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. That’s right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there’s a whole Daly Lama test. Yeah. Yeah. Right. You guys have heard about that? No. Yeah. You don’t know about Dal Lama test, bro? Daly Lama test. Daly Lama test. So the the idea is that the Daly Lama is the same guy again and again. Yeah. The way that they pick him is they take some of his belongings from his life. Yeah. And they m they take one thing that is his and a couple other things that aren’t his and they give them to the potential Daly Lama as a child. Yeah. Kids who show whatever potential like they have a similar character or something, right? And they put them all together and he has to pick the thing that was his and that’s the dog. I think it’s more than one cuz one could just be Chance.
I think it’s like a collection. Okay. So like maybe there’s like 30 things and you got to pick three. Otherwise like dude just mean there’s five. I got one. But here’s the thing is like earlier you were like I loved what what you said about the the reality of of past lives to you and um like to be honest to me previous to Scientology past the past life thing wasn’t actually that real to me. I did have an experience where I I did some some psychedelic like mush like they took mushrooms and that I was like whoa hold on there’s something other than the body going on. At that point, I was like, hm, I’m not in my body right now. Yeah. I experienced going into the earth. But you know what I was thinking as well, which we should, and we’re talking about all these drugs that, right? Yeah. Yeah. I will add this. Yeah, I will. Cuz I know I’m really like the depression that I experienced after taking LSD was bad, man. Yeah. Days and days of like emptiness, man. It was like Same for me. Yeah. Like horrendous. Not worth it. No, not worth it. You could experience that stuff. Remember your past with some dynetics, guys. You don’t need to take No, no, you can disclaimer, right? No, no. You can experience things way more intense than you’re going to feel on any drug. That’s my reaction is it’s way more intense when you’re Oh, Christ. Yeah. Oh, we can just edit these, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. LA. Yeah. But I I was just I was kind of trying to think like uh the difference in like when you guys like I’m thinking about us like going self-employed like all of us and the the mental torment you go through when you’re becoming self-employed. You know when you when you employ a bad seed. You guys ever employed a bad seed? Currently currently. But but oh your staff are going to be like but like pass one they’re gone when you’re starting out and you you employ someone that really caves you in you know it’s like that that was one of the things I learned about this stuff as well how to like spot this and look for it cuz it was like I had a guy working for me in my first my second business. He was caving me in. I was like, and he was being a friend, but he was just constantly saying how this customer, this didn’t work, the money, the hours, he really wants to help me, but he’s not earning enough, and he doesn’t know if it’s going to work. And this guy’s just playing on me, playing on my mind, and I’m I’m waking up in the middle of the night, 3, 4 in the morning, think, I’m going to lose everything here. I didn’t really have anything, but I’m like, I’m going to lose everything. My girlfriend’s going to leave me. I I’m I’m I’m renting a house just now. All my friends are in like got jobs and doing well and I’m trying to make this self-employed gig work and it’s not working. And it’s like Scientology really helped me. you’re like really pinpoint these guys, you know, and and what do they say and how do they act and what’s their outcome and what’s around our people and you learn all these different uh things about a a social personality and an antisocial personality. Social is we interact. The bus driver drives the bus, the train driver drives the train. You know, the electrician fixes the electricity. Builders build people own restaurants. like people that are building society that work together and exchange. Then you’ve got these antisocial elements like criminals and like and they’re not all walking about with like kind of the black mask and the black and white stripy t-shirt. Yeah. And it’s like you employ guys and you know they say all the right stuff at the start and then you just find the you know and they start and it weighs you down and you get one or two of these guys in your small businesses it’s over you know and one of the things that I really uh liked about Elron Hubard stuff is uh this thing called the Hubard chart of human evaluation and this thing shows you how people act, how good people act, how bad people act, what to look out for indicators and that’s like a Bible for me when I’m recruiting because it’s like you have to have good guys with good intentions, you know, and sometimes people don’t always have good intentions and it’s like the impact of these guys on your on your life like I I’m thinking of one just now. I don’t know if you guys have ever had it, you know, but I’ve had guys steal from me and you know they’re my friend. They’re stealing from me. Yeah. I’m trying my best at the same time stealing, you know, and it’s like they’re not really your friend obviously. Yeah. I say that again. You know what I mean? But it’s like but you guys have got employees, lots of employees. You got a big company. It’s like I I even when I was starting out, I thought, God, how the hell do you have employees? Like how without stress, without being continually stressed by their lives and the the problems that they they give you and all that. I thought, how the like and a few times I was like, this isn’t worth it, man. I’m just getting a job. I’m just getting a job. That’s what they want at the end of the day. That’s what that’s what they want, right? You kind of bounce between those two. That group that you created, it’s destroyed. Yeah. When when the leader gives up, the group’s over. I will tell you the way I look at it is every job that you create is a massive contribution to the world. Yeah. The amount of people that have had their first baby, bought their first house, did like working for one of my companies. Yeah. Is a lot. Yeah. Right. And a in a lot of cases like who knows what else they would have had. And so you have to just have that like at least for me have that like confidence and knowing that you’re doing a service like business the business world is what builds everything. Yeah. Like governments. Okay, cool. There’s police will protect people. Yeah. A lot of police do. There’s a, you know, there’s some jobs that government do, but even even the, if you look at the government jobs, a lot of them use forprofit private companies for their work. You’re going to build a railroad. Okay, cool.
It’s a government job, but it’s actually the guys that do it are the business owners. The apartment buildings, the housing, it’s done by people who provide jobs. And so, as a as a one of our jobs is to make jobs. Yeah. So, jobs don’t just like there’s work to be done everywhere. There’s an infinity amount of jobs everywhere that should be done, but nobody’s taking them on. Yeah. And so, at least as a boss, as one of my jobs, it’s like, hey, I can put these things together and make a job for somebody. And when they take that, that’s that is a gift to them. And anyone who’s going to say or show or make you try to believe that you’re not doing enough, they don’t want you to make jobs. They want you to go back into your whole do whatever. Yeah. and and go to work for the the the convenience store, right? Yeah. Yeah. It’s true. It’s like guys online will attack me like, “Oh, you you know, you’re too expensive. You know, a big company. I do it cheaper.” And I’m like, “Oh, how many people you employing?” You know, the guy sitting there on his own moaning. I’m like, there’s like 300 families that are impacted by what we do, what what our companies do, what our businesses do. It’s like and those families, you know, they’re all paying their taxes and, you know, going to school and being part of society. It’s like, well, what are you contributing apart for being by yourself and moaning about how well I’m doing? Like, you know what I mean? He’s he’s contributing helping flow attention to you. Yeah. It’s true. It’s true. Oh, okay. One question I want to ask every guest, right? So, we have like a little clip here. What’s your favorite food? Yeah. Yeah. What? What is your probably favorite? Probably a version of potato. Okay. Nice. Nice. So, in your words, what is Scientology? Uh, I’ll probably just Okay. In my words, what is Scientology? Scientology is bringing out who you really are. And Yeah. Oh, the end. Okay. No, that would be it. Just Just bringing out who you really are. just bringing you out and that’s all it’s ever done. Just brought more and more of me out. Yeah. It doesn’t change you, doesn’t alter you. It just bring it just kind of magnifies who you are and and you get rid of all of the stuff that isn’t you, which is generally the crap stuff. Yeah, that’s right. Nice. Beautiful. Amazing. Well, Rory, thank you for coming to the show, dude. It’s been amazing. Good. Good fun. And uh that’s it. Okay, last parting words. Last parting words. Yeah. What do you want to tell someone right now who’s like, “Dude, what? They don’t know what to do with their life or like, hey, what am I doing? I don’t know. Look at this guy. I could ever do 40 million. I could, you know, I don’t know. I can’t find my girlfriend.” Well, girlfriend. Yeah. No.
If you I think if you’re if you’re a bit frustrated with not building your business or not being in a relationship or not able to achieve your goals because there’s so many different things people do. sports and business and there’s so many things. But if you’re frustrated and you’re looking for like tools or a vehicle to help you achieve your goals, then you know you use Dionetics and Scientology because they’re just tools to help you improve the condition of your life. And that’s all it is. And that’s the truth, you know, and all the crap out there that says otherwise is just crap designed to stop you achieving your goals, you know. So that would be my message. Just do a course. They’re on They’re online. They’re free. Yeah. And apply it to your life and see if it works. And then that that’s all you need to do. Yeah. You look for you. Yeah. Yeah. That’s it. Sweet guys. Cool. base.
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