Don't Do Nothing

[00:00:00] Manuel: Then in the next couple of years, I might have a billion dollar exit. If you’re watching this and you have zero belief of your ideas, just know that this is exactly where I was at. We got nothing to hide. The IRS wants to come after me. I produce hundreds of millions of dollars. Come on, I’ll open up and I’ll put a red carpet for you.

[00:00:15] Manuel: For me, the moment that change everything was not a desire to make money with desire to stay alive, I’m not gonna tell you the list of things that I tried before I actually got something that worked. 

[00:00:26] Aaron: Listen to what this guy’s about to say. 

[00:00:28] Manuel: You gotta flow power to the people that put you where you’re at and never forget about who opened up the door to you when you were outside.

[00:00:35] Brad: Welcome back to another episode of the Don’t Do Nothing podcast. Today we have an amazing guest, personal dear personal friend of mine with us. He has a. He’s an amazing businessman. To start off, he’s built a nine figure physical product business, an eight figure marketing agency that markets for some of the top names in the world, some people you would recognize, which include Brandon Dawson, Caesar [00:01:00] Milan, Nancy Cartwright, Tom Cummins, and a whole slew of others.

[00:01:04] Brad: Some we can’t even mention ’cause they’re that level. And he’s an amazing husband. He owns a bunch of other businesses, by the way. He has four beautiful children and he just happens to be a Scientologist. 

[00:01:17] Manuel: I absolutely am. 

[00:01:17] Brad: Mr. Manuel Suarez, 

[00:01:19] Manuel: absolutely pleasure to be here. Brad. Aaron, thanks for having me, bro.

[00:01:22] Brad: Thank you for being here. We appreciate it. Absolutely. 

[00:01:24] Aaron: I, I have to have, I have to add to 

[00:01:25] opening 

[00:01:26] Aaron: a little 

[00:01:26] Brad: bit. Please. Yeah, please. 

[00:01:27] Aaron: I just have to say, so I mean me and I think Brad as well, we know a lot of Scientologists. Mm-hmm. 

[00:01:33] Manuel: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. 

[00:01:34] Aaron: And I think there is a lot of great Scientologists, a lot of people, great doing great things.

[00:01:40] Aaron: Now that being said, I would say you are in the top. Your example that you set and what you do, the activities that you’re a part of, the people that you hire, the projects that you run, the business that you do, the impact of the businesses is extremely stellar. And actually, you are an example for me.

[00:01:56] Manuel: Thanks, Aaron. I’m 

[00:01:57] Aaron: letting you know 

[00:01:57] Manuel: that means a lot. That means a lot because, um, 

[00:01:59] Brad: [00:02:00] I’m gonna piggyback that. Me too. 

[00:02:01] Manuel: Yeah. You know, I, I, I get excited about, um, doing this because like we, we have to think about the, the next generation, right? Like, we have a responsibility and I’m actually, you guys make me feel old because you guys are way younger than me, right?

[00:02:16] Manuel: Like, and, uh, but it’s exciting to see the energy being put in, uh, by you guys to, to get this, this out there. And, uh, I, I have a life that’s, uh, that doesn’t rotate around a schedule or you know, how many hours in the day. I wrote it around a purpose. 

[00:02:32] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:02:32] Manuel: And I love playing with a purpose, and I love playing with people that also have big purpose.

[00:02:37] Manuel: It’s interesting, you know, when you put attention on something, you can actually, um. Create effects and create impacts. And I like doing that. I enjoy it. I enjoy the game of, uh, helping people and making them do better in life. It’s a fun thing to do. 

[00:02:49] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:02:50] Manuel: Nice. 

[00:02:50] Brad: So I know you personally pretty well at this point, and I know that it wasn’t always that way in terms of maybe, maybe you always had talking about Brad had that [00:03:00] purpose.

[00:03:00] Brad: Well, we’re going back to that. He means you 

[00:03:01] are 

[00:03:01] Aaron: broke. 

[00:03:03] Brad: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh man. Spiritually and financially. Spiritually. Maybe more than financially. But yeah, there, there was a period. You okay? There was a period where, where life was not like this. 

[00:03:13] Manuel: You know, you, Aaron was saying that, uh, that I’m in the top and, and so, and about how much I dedicate to our church and so on.

[00:03:21] Manuel: There’s by 

[00:03:21] Brad: dedicate, he means donate. 

[00:03:22] Manuel: Yeah. Well, that’s And time too. No, there’s a lot of people that, that, uh, in our church that, uh, uh, contribute, uh, financial energy to keep the organizations expanding and growing. But then there’s some of us that contribute a lot of financial energy. And our own dedication to help a lot of people, right?

[00:03:40] Manuel: Mm-hmm. And that’s, that’s the example that I like to myself, pass along to other people. It’s not just about signing checks. We gotta actually participate Yeah. In making the world a better place. But I can tell you the reason why I am so dedicated to the purpose of making other people better is because of my past.

[00:03:57] Manuel: Uh, if I go back to my history, [00:04:00] um, I’m 44 years old today. Yes. Way older than you guys. Way older than you guys. You can tell from the white hair and all of, I’m starting to 

[00:04:08] Aaron: get white too though. You know? 

[00:04:10] Manuel: Well, you still got some time, Aaron. You still got some time. Uh, you caught up to me with four kids now, you know, um, ’cause I got four children, they add up to a little bit of the white hairs.

[00:04:19] Manuel: Right? But I can tell you that my life, uh, before cytology was. Was incredible to think about, like, you know, where I come, you know, the, uh, the fact I was a drug addict. I was a criminal. Um, I was very unhappy, you know, above all I was very unhappy. Mm-hmm. I did not have any friends. I did not have any real friends.

[00:04:38] Manuel: Mm-hmm. I was a social personality. I always was. I always liked to have friends and, um, I always like to help people and be around people and, uh, but when you are in that environment, uh, people that surround you end up being fake. Mm-hmm. They, they’re, they’re all in it for something else. 

[00:04:56] Brad: What do you mean by that environment?

[00:04:57] Manuel: Uh, the environment of, um, [00:05:00] unethical people. Mm-hmm. Uh, that, um, are active in crime and drug addiction. Uh, they are, they’re not really operating. I mean, something that, uh, Mr. Hubbard talks about in, in, in this book, dietetics, um, is this thing called the reactive mind. Right? 

[00:05:15] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:05:16] Manuel: So, uh, all these people that I had around, 

[00:05:19] Brad: yeah, 

[00:05:19] Manuel: there may be a lot of them are good people.

[00:05:22] Manuel: But they were all influenced by this reactive mind that had them behaving and operating in a certain way. Right? So, um, in the, um, in it, it, this technology describes that problem. We were all consistently with things that made us feel very dark. Uh, and, um, with all these, um, drug addiction phenomena, uh, that we’re all in it for ourselves, you know, we’re running out of drugs and we’re running outta money, and we go out there to see who we can take it from.

[00:05:54] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:05:55] Manuel: You know, and, um, when you have that environment around you, uh, you don’t have [00:06:00] like real friends that will back you up. Like right now, I have real friends. Mm-hmm. I have a lot of them. Mm-hmm. If I have a problem, I pick up the phone. I call you, Brad, I need some help. You show up the next hour, right?

[00:06:09] Manuel: Yeah. Um, I have many of those friends now and I have a circle of people that protect me, become a shield. 

[00:06:15] Brad: He never does that, by the way. ’cause he’s got a so lock, he would never, you know, but if he did, of course. A hundred percent. 

[00:06:21] Manuel: That’s right. Well, we know we have that, right? Like, um, I look close 

[00:06:24] Brad: to 

[00:06:24] Manuel: you. I generally, um, uh, I I end up helping, uh, people on the way, but I I, we do have such a great support staff, right?

[00:06:32] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:06:32] Manuel: So anyways, the point is that my life before cytology, I was, um, a 19 years old. I was in a, um, restaurant, uh, serving tables, uh, as a, as a waiter in Puerto Rico, a restaurant called The Para Club. And I was, uh, making a hundred, $200 a night. And I was snorting $200 a night. And, uh, it will start over like the Groundhog Day, every single day.

[00:06:58] Manuel: And I used to, [00:07:00] I used to, um, every morning wake up out of the drug, right? Okay, good. I’m gonna quit. I’m gonna quit. I’m gonna quit, I’m gonna quit. And then the same thing happened for years. I’m talking about from the age of 16 to the age of 19. 

[00:07:12] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:07:13] Manuel: And, um, my father had found ology, uh, it was my birthday.

[00:07:17] Manuel: I turned 19. He called me and he said, son, happy birthday. 

[00:07:20] Aaron: Mm. 

[00:07:21] Manuel: And I was like, thank you, dad. I love you. Hung up the phone. I called him right back crying, and I said, dad, I, I need help. I’m ready. Um, he picked me up, took me out to lunch, and um, he said, son, I gotta take you out of this island. I lived in Puerto Rico.

[00:07:34] Manuel: Mm-hmm. Surrounded by trouble, and he shipped me off to a different country, went to Mexico. If it wasn’t for that, I would’ve never met my wife. I would’ve never. Got it on the staff. Yeah. I mean, it’s, it was the biggest decision of my life, but when I tell you that I owe everything that I have to Scientology, it’s, it’s very quite literal because it’s the one thing that, that got me out of that terrible condition.

[00:07:56] Manuel: It gave me a system. Gave me a group, gave me a [00:08:00] technology, something to believe in, something to do, right. Because Scientology above all, is not something to believe in. It’s mostly something to do, right? Yeah. So I was able to, to read stuff and to study things and apply them, and I was like, wow, that works and this is cool and I’m doing better and I’m happy.

[00:08:18] Manuel: And I got friends and people and, and, um, and I just got on a path and yeah, it, it was never easy, but that thing was, so could you 

[00:08:25] Aaron: describe that? How so, and by the way, uh, your dad, uh, Frank Suarez mm-hmm. Was a, a legendary, epic, uh, known person who helped people with their health for decades. 

[00:08:35] Manuel: The most followed social media personality in Latin America on the planet.

[00:08:39] Manuel: 50 51 million followers. 

[00:08:40] Aaron: Incredible. Okay? Mm-hmm. So when he said, Hey, go from. Puerto Rico go to Mexico. Can you describe like, how that occurred? You’d known, you didn’t know about Scientology or Dynamics or nothing at that time, right? 

[00:08:50] Manuel: I, I had, uh, my dad had tried to introduce me for a good two years Yep. To it, but I, I, I really didn’t accept the invite.

[00:08:59] Manuel: Mm-hmm. [00:09:00] So I didn’t know enough about it, uh, to really have a, an evaluation of it, aside from the fact that I don’t know. What this is. I know I need help. 

[00:09:08] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:09:08] Manuel: And I had this need for change. Yep. Like, it’s time. Mm-hmm. That’s it. I gotta get out of this. Like, my life is just like, and I got nobody to call to, like, I had one person and I was getting distant from him, which was my father, because the people that you care about, you don’t want to hurt them.

[00:09:26] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:09:26] Manuel: So it’s one of those things that when you’re destroying yourself, you back away from those people around you that you care about. Mm-hmm. Because you also don’t wanna destroy them. So I had backed away from my own father, and he was literally the only person that I could call and say that, can you help me?

[00:09:42] Aaron: Wow. 

[00:09:42] Manuel: Mm-hmm. 

[00:09:43] Aaron: Okay. So then he says this, go, go to Mexico. The how, how, how did that process go? Like kinda explain 

[00:09:50] Manuel: he, he says something to me, and I’m never gonna forget. This is like 25 years ago, right? Uh, it’s one of those moments, you know how in life there’s moments that. Just for [00:10:00] some reason feel like they happened this morning, right?

[00:10:02] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:10:02] Manuel: Yeah. Mm-hmm. It’s just like, it’s incredible. I get, I get goosebumps to think about that because you have this long life and a lot of those things are like distant. Mm-hmm. And then some of those things are here. Right. That was one of those moments in my life that, um, feel like just happened this morning to me.

[00:10:17] Manuel: Uh, he, um, we went out to eat, to eat at a hamburger place, and he told me, he said, son, you’ve been trying to quit for a few years, right. Uh, it doesn’t work. And I said, yeah, I’ve been trying to quit, uh, that every day I want to quit. 

[00:10:32] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:10:32] Manuel: And he’s like, okay, so you gotta get out of this environment. You gotta get up because the, the problem, the reason why is that your environment is drawing you back in to this same thing.

[00:10:48] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:10:48] Manuel: So you wake up every morning, you want to get out. You end your shift and you go back into it and you have the same people around you, so you can’t get out of it. Puerto Rico being a small island, so a [00:11:00] hundred miles by 30, you know, it’s, it’s very difficult to escape mm-hmm. In, in that little island.

[00:11:05] Manuel: And I just kept on going back and I, when he told me that, that felt like a truth. 

[00:11:09] Brad: Mm. 

[00:11:10] Manuel: And you know, that’s something that he got, where did he get this from? Right from here. Mm-hmm. 

[00:11:15] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:11:15] Manuel: One of the, uh, Mr. Hubbard talks about the valid forms of therapy. 

[00:11:19] Aaron: Yep. 

[00:11:20] Manuel: One of them being change of environment. 

[00:11:22] Aaron: That’s right.

[00:11:22] Manuel: Yeah. And, and that’s what I needed. That’s what I couldn’t myself. Like, I, I don’t, I didn’t know why every single day I kept on going back and I couldn’t get out of it. And it was literally the thing that changed my life. Mm-hmm. So he told me it’s, it wasn’t even about going to do Scientology in a different country.

[00:11:39] Manuel: It was about. Number one, get out of here. 

[00:11:42] Brad: Right. 

[00:11:42] Manuel: Get out of here. Right. Yeah. And, and he shipped me off like, uh, I spent a couple weeks handling my passport. You know, if you’re in Puerto Rico, you are a US citizen. 

[00:11:50] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:11:50] Manuel: Got my passport and as a drug addict, I went and I, uh, my father had a friend in Mexico and uh, he, uh, he took me in and [00:12:00] uh, took me to the church and I walked in and I said, this is who I am.

[00:12:03] Manuel: Transparency. Right. Which is a beautiful thing about our religion, right? Mm-hmm. Like here’s a reason why we can be right Scientologists. We are comfortable being ourselves because we have a light shining at us and we got nothing to hide. 

[00:12:19] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:12:20] Manuel: You, the IRS wants to come after me. I produce hundreds of millions of dollars.

[00:12:23] Manuel: Come on, I’ll open up and I’ll put a red carpet for you. Right? Like, you want to check if I’m being, um, um, if I’m being unfaithful to my wife, go ahead and check me out. I’ve never once in 20 years looked at another woman or like gotten close to another female. I’ve been nothing but loyal to my wife.

[00:12:41] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:12:41] Manuel: Um, anything about like, you know, Epstein files or whatever the frick is going on. Right. Like, it doesn’t really matter. Right. All those things are like, you know, we, the, the, the real Scientologists mm-hmm. Which by definition are the ones that use Scientology Yeah. In their lives. ’cause unfortunately, [00:13:00] like in any other religion, there’s some people that pretend they are Yeah.

[00:13:04] Manuel: Or act like they are and they’re not. Right. But the real Scientologists, we are clean, we are ethical, we are hardworking. We don’t break the law. We don’t mess with like, out ethics things in general. And we take care of all the people around us. So 

[00:13:21] Brad: I, I want to 

[00:13:21] Manuel: interject. I, I actually opened up myself, right?

[00:13:24] Manuel: Yeah. And I said, this is who I am. I’m a drug addict, I’m a criminal. I need help and. Here we go. Can you help me? And they took me out. Well, 

[00:13:32] Brad: on, on the point of, not me, just to clarify, like on the point of not messing with the illegal stuff, the drugs, the alcohol, the unfaithfulness or whatever, I’ll just say from my viewpoint, it’s not because it’s like from a holier than thou, or like that’s because we just should, it’s because we actually have just seen it.

[00:13:48] Brad: We’ve been, we’ll be bit by it and we know that it’s gonna result in a bad effect on us and the ones around us. So we just don’t do it for the sake of not creating the bad effect. It’s not because of a, that’s because this is what I love about Scientology [00:14:00] is it’s like, hey, you should just do the most sensible thing, the thing that will create the most good and the least bad.

[00:14:06] Brad: And everything you just described, which you stay away from very clearly without debate, creates the most good and the least bad. You know? And that’s what I, that’s something that I love about Scientology, just me personally. Mm-hmm. I just felt like I had to interject. Mm-hmm. Is like, it’s so simple. It’s just the simplicity.

[00:14:22] Aaron: It is. 

[00:14:23] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:14:23] Aaron: It’s a truth. 

[00:14:24] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:14:24] Manuel: Brad, it’s, it really is something that you, uh. You open up one of these books and you read it and it feels right. 

[00:14:31] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:14:32] Manuel: And then you go and you apply it. 

[00:14:33] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:14:34] Manuel: And oh, okay. That makes sense. So wait a second. So there’s a thing called the a RC triangle. Oh. So if I take one of these points, affinity and I increase it, reality in communication also increase so I can actually have more understanding.

[00:14:49] Manuel: So it’s, it’s, it’s so truth, right? Mm-hmm. It’s so like real that it’s very, um, you know, like it’s very easy to digest. The one thing that, um, I [00:15:00] heard, I, I was having a conversation with a good friend of mine and, um, he had a, a problem with his father having some problems with him being in ology. Mm-hmm. And his father was not against it particularly.

[00:15:13] Manuel: He was mostly concerned and influenced by the media and opinions and whatever, people that don’t really know about, 

[00:15:21] Brad: yeah. 

[00:15:21] Manuel: They talk about, right? Yep. Like, you can’t really, by the way, don’t talk about things that you don’t know about. Right? Like, you know, you want to talk about something, get some knowledge first, study it, and then talk about it.

[00:15:31] Manuel: Otherwise, it’s, it’s a little ignorant to do so. Mm-hmm. And it’s, um, not the right path. Study technology, apply it, and then you can talk whether it’s correct or not. Right. Usually that’s the right way to do so. But his father, he was telling him, no, I’m concerned about Scientology. You shouldn’t be doing this, and this is why.

[00:15:49] Manuel: And I’m worried about it. And he was like, he looked at him and he said, dad, do you know why I like Scientology? And his dad was like, tell me why. And, uh, [00:16:00] and, and he, he said, dad, um, when I walked into Scientology, I saw thousands of scriptures. Lectures, materials, books, entire libraries of materials of the founder of Scientology.

[00:16:18] Manuel: Yeah. When I see that, and I look into every other church that I’ve ever been in contact with over several decades, and I see that they all wrote it around one book that gets interpreted by millions of people in different ways. I realize there’s something special about this. 

[00:16:38] Brad: Mm. 

[00:16:38] Manuel: Because if the individual spends so much time at putting together scripture, the tune of millions of words, thousands of lectures, and it’s also codified and organized, I believe there’s something special about that.

[00:16:53] Manuel: Yeah. Because it’s something that I can study and I can apply and I’m like, wow, what a good way of explaining that. [00:17:00] Amazing. And this is, no, this to the Bible, right? Like this is just like, 

[00:17:03] Brad: yeah, of course. 

[00:17:04] Manuel: There must be something about this religion that has so much scripture. So much material that that’s why Ology has done a big campaign on Curious, right?

[00:17:15] Manuel: Mm-hmm. Are you curious, because there’s so much material. What is it if I read this? Wait a second. Valid forms of therapy. Okay. So there’s three ways that I can improve myself. Oh wow. I can get education, I can change the environment with description of each one. That’s incredible because here’s the one thing that we all need to agree on.

[00:17:38] Manuel: You can always get better. 

[00:17:39] Aaron: Yeah. 

[00:17:39] Manuel: You can always improve. The moment that you start feeling that there’s no more improvement, 

[00:17:44] Aaron: it’s ’cause you went to a psychologist that told you You can never change. 

[00:17:47] Manuel: You can never change. Right? Yeah. You are who you are, 

[00:17:49] Aaron: so 

[00:17:50] Manuel: it’s in your nature. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It’s a very powerful way to, to, to look at it.

[00:17:55] Manuel: Like there must be something cool about what we have in our hands if there’s so [00:18:00] much codified technology behind it. 

[00:18:02] Aaron: Yeah. 

[00:18:03] Manuel: It’s fascinating. Totally. It’s truth. A lot of truth. 

[00:18:05] Aaron: Yeah. So I guess that that worked. 

[00:18:08] Manuel: It worked out quite well. Yeah, it did. Uh, and that’s why I am so dedicated to our purpose. Uh, Aaron, uh, the, um, it was a long journey.

[00:18:19] Manuel: It’s been 25 years. I’ve been in Scientology active for 25 years. Um, learning actively, consistently. I am in the church almost every day. 

[00:18:30] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:18:30] Manuel: Uh, doing something, heading back there after, as soon as we’re done. And I spend a lot of time, and by the way, I, I’m very busy. Mm-hmm. I’m a very busy, busy human being.

[00:18:41] Manuel: Like I’ve got 250 employees. I got a lot of stuff going on. I got in 5,000 companies. I got like a lot going on and, uh, 

[00:18:50] Brad: so like a new company every six months, 

[00:18:52] Manuel: always cream or buy 

[00:18:53] Brad: one. 

[00:18:53] Manuel: Never satisfied, you know, never satisfied with growth. 

[00:18:56] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:18:56] Manuel: You know, I can tell you the, uh, the evil on [00:19:00] this planet 

[00:19:00] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:19:01] Manuel: Is always producing energy and money and they do it illegally.

[00:19:05] Manuel: Or they do it unethically, even though they might be abiding by the law. 

[00:19:09] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:19:09] Manuel: They’re drugging children. They’re drugging people, they’re like making people stupid. They’re like, you know, all these advertising campaigns on television, promoting psychiatric drugs, you name it. All these things that are making people completely ignorant.

[00:19:24] Manuel: Right. In this society, they produce billions of dollars with these campaigns. 

[00:19:29] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:19:29] Manuel: So I feel like if we don’t step in there and the same people mm-hmm. The ones that have intentions to bring back sanity, bring back life, bring back, you know, the, it’s the, the individuals that are themselves without influence of chemicals in their bodies.

[00:19:49] Manuel: Right. There’s a lot of people being drugged out there. Right. A lot of 

[00:19:52] Aaron: people it’s in, it’s the, the numbers are actually like staggering. 

[00:19:54] Manuel: Yeah. It’s incredible. Right. 

[00:19:55] Aaron: Like someone like one in five in the US Yeah. Are on some sort of like, [00:20:00] mind altering drug. And that’s, and that’s, that’s planned. I mean, it’s a plan.

[00:20:04] Aaron: Because now you’re, you’re, that’s what you’re thinking about and you’re no longer a threat to somebody else. 

[00:20:08] Manuel: Imagine that. I take a Tylenol maybe once every, and there’s controversy with Tylenol right now. I might take one. Well, you have, 

[00:20:14] you’re 

[00:20:15] Aaron: not carrying a baby though. 

[00:20:17] Manuel: I might take one every two or three years when I have this, uh, unstoppable headache.

[00:20:23] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:20:23] Manuel: Other than that, we don’t toxify our bodies. Right? Yeah. Same. We, we don’t, uh, but anyways, except 

[00:20:28] Brad: with cigars. 

[00:20:28] Manuel: Except with cigars. We do like to smoke with cigars. We do. Uh, but I was saying that, um, what was I talking about just before you, you jumped in Adam. 

[00:20:39] Brad: Uh, they, they how much the evils Oh, yeah. On the planet.

[00:20:42] Manuel: So that’s point, right. Produc money. And they’re active. So it’s a viewpoint of responsibility. 

[00:20:46] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:20:46] Manuel: I personally, uh, as long as this body’s working, I’m, I’m gonna work really hard at producing large amounts of money and energy. Mm-hmm. Because I use that energy to [00:21:00] help. 

[00:21:00] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:21:01] Manuel: And um. There’s a lot of evil using it to destroy and to suppress people even more.

[00:21:07] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:21:07] Manuel: And to create more ignorant people, right? Mm-hmm. So if we don’t do our best to produce energy and to balance things out, it’s harder for us to make money. By the way, it’s harder because they make it, you know, they, they can print a drug. Mm-hmm. They’ll go and manufacture a new formula. Right. And they’ll get it approved by the fda.

[00:21:27] Manuel: Mm-hmm. And here we go, billions of dollars later. Right. So, um, and, uh, I don’t know if that, you know, YouTube is gonna like that, so, or not, but, um, 

[00:21:36] Brad: whatever, if it’s the truth, it’s the truth. 

[00:21:38] Manuel: It is the truth. And, um, we, we have a, a responsibility that it’s, it’s on our hands, uh, that, um, you know, the more energy that we produce, the more we can create.

[00:21:48] Manuel: I mean, you guys interviewed, for example here, Tom Cummins. Right? Like he, he’s out there working harder than ever. 

[00:21:53] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:21:54] Manuel: Because he has a responsibility of making energy. So we can make this world a better place to try to [00:22:00] balance out the evil on this planet. Yeah. Which there’s a lot of evil. The good thing is there’s more good than evil.

[00:22:06] Manuel: Yeah. 

[00:22:06] Brad: It’s true 

[00:22:07] Manuel: that sometimes it doesn’t feel like it. 

[00:22:09] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:22:09] Manuel: Because the evil is very loud. Evil is very loud. 

[00:22:11] Brad: That Yeah. The 

[00:22:11] Aaron: problem, the problem too is that, that if there’s enough good guys that don’t do anything, the other guys are active. See the guy’s pushing you down. They’re active and they’re moving and they’re scared.

[00:22:22] Aaron: And if enough good people do nothing, that’s where that’s, that’s where we’ve come to. 

[00:22:27] Manuel: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:22:28] Aaron: Right. And 

[00:22:28] Manuel: that’s all that is. That is my purpose, by the way. That’s part of my purpose the last few years. Aaron. Like, I want to get more of this. Like people, like you guys doing what you’re doing now, spreading the word.

[00:22:38] Manuel: You know, we fly all over the world to try to like. Get people to brighten up and help them get going and do more. And it, it becomes this ripple effect. Right. And it, and we start actually making waves and making change. Right. So we need a lot more of that. Like, we kind of need to multiply ourselves. And if, if I, [00:23:00] myself, I was, I was a quiet little mouse when I was 19, 20.

[00:23:03] Manuel: I wasn’t creating waves. I was already an adult. 

[00:23:06] Brad: This was my next question. What changed? What, like when did that, if, if you had to say maybe there was multiple points or one point, but where did that shift for you? 

[00:23:15] Manuel: So it was, it was, uh, there’s not one single thing. It’s a progression. Mm-hmm. That happens over the years as you go into self discovery and you start realizing your potential.

[00:23:26] Manuel: I’ve, I’ve built a lot of success for myself, Brad, as you know. Not in my wildest dreams, I would imagine that I was capable of doing. I don’t know about you, Aaron, like you built a lot of success for yourself. I did. Yourself. 

[00:23:36] Aaron: No, I didn’t. 

[00:23:37] Manuel: You didn’t. You don’t picture this, right? Like that’s the reality. It just happens.

[00:23:41] Manuel: And one of the things that I talk about in my seminars is like, you don’t really understand your potential. 

[00:23:45] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:23:45] Manuel: And when I say that to people, I mean it because I didn’t understand my potential, right? Mm-hmm. Whatever I’m gonna do the next year, I don’t know, I didn’t believe I was capable of, I mean, I’m doing some big things.

[00:23:55] Manuel: I mean, I, I believe now that, um, now I [00:24:00] believe that in the next couple of years, I, I might have a billion dollar exit. 

[00:24:03] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:24:03] Manuel: Right. And did I believe that was possible a few years ago? No, I believe it was possible. Now, 

[00:24:08] Brad: knowing the, the background of a lot of stuff that you’re doing and have, having a lot of insider information, just from us talking, I almost feel like it’s a guarantee that you’ll have a billion dollar X in the next five to 10 

[00:24:17] Manuel: years.

[00:24:17] Manuel: Guarantees are, it’s a very, that’s, 

[00:24:19] Brad: I said it, not you, I said it, not you, but I would, I will go on record saying it’s guaranteed. 

[00:24:24] Manuel: So I’m working with the, the only, this is very special. Yeah. So it’s a bold statement, right? Yeah. There’s one global personal brand in the subject of pets global. Mm. 

[00:24:36] Brad: One, 

[00:24:37] Manuel: you know how there’s like Dr.

[00:24:38] Manuel: Bergs and Dr. X and you know Gary Breca and there’s like thousands of them, right? For the subject of humans 

[00:24:46] Brad: human health, 

[00:24:46] Manuel: right? 

[00:24:46] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:24:47] Manuel: And the subject of, uh, pets, there’s one global figure. Mm-hmm. He’s my partner. And we’re building a big brand. And um, we just launched it a week ago and it’s called Beog Supplements and it’s a booming market right now.[00:25:00] 

[00:25:00] Manuel: And he is the authority. 

[00:25:02] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:25:02] Manuel: So we’re gonna have to be dealing with big offers and having sit downs on board rooms to decide. Do we want it? No, no, we’re gonna keep going. No, we’re gonna keep going. There’s already, there’s already been in this industry, uh, there was a, um, there was a brand that 

[00:25:19] Aaron: zesty pause for 630 million, 630 mil.

[00:25:21] Manuel: Mm-hmm. And you know how much they were doing in revenue a year? 

[00:25:25] Aaron: I dunno, 

[00:25:26] Manuel: 15 mil? 

[00:25:27] Aaron: 15 1 5 

[00:25:27] Manuel: 55 0 0 

[00:25:28] Aaron: 5 0. Okay. 

[00:25:29] Manuel: And they got a $630 million still. Yeah, 

[00:25:31] Aaron: it was, it was a ridiculous multiple for sure. 

[00:25:33] Manuel: But you see, you see the potential. That’s, that’s what they believe in, right? Like, 

[00:25:36] Aaron: do you know what they did? Do you know one of the key formula?

[00:25:39] Aaron: Well you probably do like, no, but I’ll, I’ll share what I believe and what I’ve heard because I’ve talked to the guy. Yeah. By the way, um, they got the patent slash trademark of ingredients. For the items. ’cause what happens similar to skincare or or, or vitamins or whatever, if you look, a lot of times people are like, oh, what’s the [00:26:00] active ingredient?

[00:26:01] Aaron: Lemme just go find someone else that makes this active ingredient. 

[00:26:03] Manuel: Mm-hmm. 

[00:26:04] Aaron: But if you make your own active ingredient, and it can be whatever, you can patent a formula, you can get the name to be a trademark name. So they’re looking for blah, blah, blah, 

[00:26:13] Brad: they can’t find it anywhere else. 

[00:26:14] Aaron: You can’t. So then, and then you could license out that to people that want to have it, et cetera.

[00:26:19] Aaron: But if you have your name, someone can’t just be like, okay, whatever. I’m gonna just go. ’cause you create a special blend of different items and those, those ingredients are a key point of that. Mm-hmm. That whole market. 

[00:26:29] Manuel: Absolutely. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. So we, we have uh, we have great formulas and we have the biggest star in the market, so we’re very, very like, optimistic about it.

[00:26:38] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:26:38] Manuel: Mm-hmm. We’ll see how that rolls. Maybe we’ll do a new podcast in a couple years and. Figure out what to do with, uh, or just 

[00:26:43] Brad: have a pile of cash behind him. In 

[00:26:44] Manuel: the next box we’ll figure out what to do with all the money. Right. Uh, anyway, so we’re obviously, we, we played the game so we can produce wealth that we can take that wealth and do big things with it.

[00:26:55] Manuel: Absolutely. It’s, it’s an ecosystem. You asked me what was the moment? [00:27:00] I can tell you there was several moments along the way. Yeah. Uh, what’s one that 

[00:27:03] Brad: sticks out? 

[00:27:03] Manuel: The, the, uh, the entrepreneur moment of making money, uh, was way later on the chain of like, me being already a dedicated ologist. Right. Yeah. Uh, I was already, 

[00:27:14] you 

[00:27:14] Aaron: started with a, with volunteer work?

[00:27:15] Aaron: No, after a bit 

[00:27:16] Manuel: I started working for the church. Uh, and I did that and, you know, the church saved my life. Uh, so I dedicated many years to helping it. Uh, and, uh, I joined, um, what’s called the, um, um, the staff of a church on Scientology. Mm-hmm. And I did that for years, seven and a half years actually 

[00:27:35] Aaron: starting when like.

[00:27:36] Manuel: 2000. And so I went to Mexico in 1999, 2000. I was 18, 19 years old in 2003. Um, I joined, I joined staff over there and um, I did that until 2006, uh, helped a lot of people. Mm-hmm. Best times of my life. Got my wedding over there. Um, met my wife over there. I mean, 

[00:27:58] Aaron: that’s in Mexico. 

[00:27:59] Manuel: In Mexico [00:28:00] it met like it’s one of those things, right?

[00:28:01] Manuel: Chance, like if there’s all these churches around the world mm-hmm. I could have gone to any other church. Mm-hmm. I went to that one, my wife goes to that one. And then we ended up building a beautiful life together. And um, 

[00:28:12] Aaron: and you spent a lot of the time, if I’m not, uh, mistaken, again, I haven’t talked to you so deeply about it, but you learned this book.

[00:28:18] Aaron: And you delivered the counselor. I mean, you are a counselor, 

[00:28:21] Manuel: correct? 

[00:28:22] Aaron: Right. Auditor, we call it someone who listens. 

[00:28:24] Manuel: So I didn’t have a career for myself ’cause I didn’t go to college. Right. Like, I, I was completely like, uneducated on anything. I knew how to create trouble. I was really good at rolling blunts, but I don’t think I could turn that into a business or I didn’t really have leadership.

[00:28:38] Manuel: It wasn’t a great model. Uh, I was really good at, you know, creating trouble for my family. Uh, but I couldn’t really monetize that. Right. So when I did, um, Scientology, now 

[00:28:48] Brad: that’s called vlogging. That’s how you 

[00:28:50] Manuel: monetize that blogging. Yeah. There you go. That’s true. Actually. I would’ve done that. I would’ve had a huge channel.

[00:28:54] Manuel: How to create trouble for your family and destroy everybody and create a lot of unhappiness. [00:29:00] Wow. 

[00:29:00] Aaron: There’s some of those 

[00:29:00] Manuel: may have a lot of haters. Yeah. A lot of haters. Uh, but anyways, um, I, uh, I, I, I got so benefited by the technology. Mm-hmm. And I was for the first time happy. Right. And I was like, wow. At this.

[00:29:14] Manuel: I don’t need drugs to be happy. Mm-hmm. It was interesting. 

[00:29:17] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:29:17] Manuel: I don’t need to smoke weed to feel happy. I don’t need to use cocaine to like feel like it was an interesting feeling of being out of it. Right. Uh, and by the way, I did quit cold Turkey. I didn’t go to a rehab center. I just did Scientology.

[00:29:32] Manuel: Not something that I necessarily recommend that you do. There’s like, it’s difficult to do that, by the way. Yeah. Scientology has, Mr. Hubbard developed a technology that is used on rehabilitation centers called nar. Right? Mm-hmm. Um, but they gave me similar things in the church and that was enough for me to be like, okay, I’m out of it.

[00:29:50] Manuel: Right? Yep. Okay, good. Wow. So I was so benefited by it that I said, how can I do more? And um, and they said, you can join staff. And I never, never went back [00:30:00] to Puerto Rico. That was the end of my journey in Puerto Rico. Mm-hmm. Wow. So I was 19 left to Puerto Rico, never came back. 2006, wife gets pregnant. Then she, she and I moved over here into this area where we’re at in this city, Clearwater.

[00:30:15] Manuel: Wow. And we started our life over there, over here, but then kept on, eventually did another five year, um, um, stint at another church. And I did that for many years. It wasn’t until 2000, my entrepreneur era that I had no idea. First of all, zero belief in my ability to build businesses. Imagine that. So if you’re watching this and you have zero belief of your ideas, just know that this is exactly where I was at.

[00:30:42] Manuel: Talking to somebody now that has made millions of dollars, that has donated millions of dollars to humanitarian causes just 15 years ago. 

[00:30:52] Brad: Uh, tens of millions. Just 

[00:30:53] Manuel: tens of millions. I did not have a clue that I had a potential to take an idea and turn it [00:31:00] into something amazing. And I did that over and over again.

[00:31:03] Manuel: But my first, um. My first opportunity came about because of a, 

[00:31:10] Aaron: okay. Wait, wait. Hold on. Before we get there, before we get there, I wanna know in your, your auditor career, okay, 

[00:31:16] Manuel: yeah. 

[00:31:17] Aaron: I wanna give an example. ’cause a lot, if, if someone’s listening to this, they may not know what kind of miracles that you produce or you create Yeah.

[00:31:24] Aaron: Or you help bring about in somebody’s. So I wanna, if you can, if you could bring a, bring a, like a story, like you’ve been, you were there, you were auditing for I don’t know how many years. Like 6, 5, 4, 

[00:31:33] Manuel: 7 and a half total. 

[00:31:34] Aaron: Seven and a half years. Yeah. 

[00:31:35] Manuel: Yeah. 

[00:31:35] Aaron: Auditing. That’s a lot. It’s a lot of people. 

[00:31:37] Manuel: Yeah. 

[00:31:37] Aaron: So like, hey, let’s get you through this.

[00:31:40] Aaron: Like, what’s a story? Right. No names, but like that you help somebody to give an example of like what those years were like and what you were doing. 

[00:31:49] Manuel: You know, it’s, uh, 10,000 hours. I was just gonna ask that audit 

[00:31:52] Aaron: that. Wow. 

[00:31:53] Manuel: Delivered on the chair. I did that 

[00:31:55] Aaron: guys volunteer work guys. This is a guy. Yeah.

[00:31:57] Aaron: Spending who can, who here watching [00:32:00] this has spent 10,000 hours. Sitting down listening to someone and helping them get through issues. Uh, I mean, that’s an incredible, an incredible feat. Yeah. An incredible, uh, uh, uh, yeah, 

[00:32:11] Brad: professionally. Professionally, by the way. Not just like 

[00:32:13] Aaron: professionally, I mean 

[00:32:13] Brad: Oh yeah.

[00:32:14] Brad: Chilling out, having a beer, like a hundred percent there, doing nothing else. 

[00:32:18] Aaron: So this is an example of that. What is like one time that you can say like, wow, this time I really helped this guy? 

[00:32:23] Manuel: First of all, the, the act of me doing that for so long is really such a selfish action on my part. 

[00:32:30] Aaron: Really? 

[00:32:31] Manuel: Yeah.

[00:32:32] Brad: Really. 

[00:32:33] Manuel: Uh, and the reason why I’m saying that is because you feel so when you snap out of it, um, and, and you stop being a criminal, and you look back at your past and you start looking at all the people that you hurt in your life. Mm. I hurt a lot of people, right. I had to feel better about myself. And the only way that I was able to feel better about myself was to help.

[00:32:55] Manuel: Others in front of me 

[00:32:56] Aaron: Wow. 

[00:32:57] Manuel: And create changes in their lives so [00:33:00] I can feel like I belong in society again. Mm. I should, I’m okay. I’m okay to be a part of society. And you know, like there’s, there’s this like belief in, in psychology and psychiatry and whatever, that people are who they are. Right. You don’t really change from your nature.

[00:33:16] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:33:18] Manuel: And, um, wow. What, what bigger examples can you have? Like in my case, from doing what I did? I mean, we can turn this into a Halloween show. Right. And I can tell you some of the things that I did before I became a onologist, even to people that I cared about. And I loved people close to me, from my mom, to my grandparents to like, you know, I destroyed a lot of people.

[00:33:40] Manuel: Mm-hmm. So me dedicating my hours and my life to helping others, I had to feel better about myself. Mm-hmm. Now, specifically changes. It’s, it’s, it really is massive. Right? Like I, I can tell you that above all. The technology of, of auditing the spiritual [00:34:00] counseling of Scientology Yeah. Allows a person to really look inside and discover for themselves what’s wrong with them.

[00:34:08] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:34:08] Manuel: Yeah. Without the interference of somebody telling you, this is your problem, go and fix it. So we just, basically, for many years I just took, uh, we, we had instructions and I will open up and I would give the next order or the next command, what we call, we call them commands, and then we have the person look in to find an answer.

[00:34:31] Manuel: And then that person discovers what’s wrong with them and they fix it themselves. And I never tell them what’s wrong. Mm-hmm. They discover it themselves. Yeah. And then they come out with these things to do. So I, I’ve been able to help people, um, come out of depressions. Right. Come out of like, um, 

[00:34:48] Aaron: so let’s take like one example, like can you like.

[00:34:51] Aaron: This person and after X amount of time like this happened, like what’s a, just to illustrate the difference of a one individual. 

[00:34:58] Manuel: So, [00:35:00] um, wow. We didn’t, uh, prescreen these questions. Um, but I can tell you that there’s one lady that, um, she was a, um, she was, she worked at a dental office 

[00:35:17] Brad: mm-hmm. 

[00:35:18] Manuel: Uh, in Texas where I was working at.

[00:35:20] Manuel: And, um, she was very unhappy. She had, had, she had this, uh, viewpoint of, um, um, I’m not meant to have a husband, I’m never gonna be able to have a relationship. Mm-hmm. Uh, she had all these agreements with like, it wasn’t meant to be. Mm-hmm. Uh, it’s not gonna happen for her. And, um, through the technology of the spiritual counseling, she was able to discover where she made those decisions.

[00:35:46] Manuel: Why she was carrying those decisions to the present time, and she was able to remove those things from the past with her own, you know, new conclusions about it. Mm-hmm. She was able to find, uh, the love of her life [00:36:00] very shortly after, and then she ended up having this beautiful family. And what bigger miracle can you have, right?

[00:36:07] Manuel: Mm-hmm. This is a lady that was in her forties that has spent 20 years with miserable relationships. 

[00:36:12] Brad: Yep. 

[00:36:13] Manuel: Uh, one after the other, uh, being mistreated by men, um, falling into terrible relationships. Mm-hmm. And she gets, uh, Scientology, uh, counseling for 50 hours. Specific things apply to her. Mm-hmm. Specific technology.

[00:36:28] Manuel: And she finds the love of her, of her life. She gets married, uh, 15 years later. She’s still married, has three three kids. Three kids. Wow. Yeah. And 

[00:36:37] Aaron: in the forties. Talk 

[00:36:38] Manuel: about, talk 

[00:36:39] Aaron: about that’s, that’s also, I mean, that’s. That’s work. 

[00:36:42] Manuel: Our last kid was 44 years old by the, my wife was 44 when we had her last one.

[00:36:45] Manuel: Wow. Um, but that’s, you know, those are the miracles that we get to produce. Right. 

[00:36:50] Aaron: I mean, I was talking about the other lady. 

[00:36:51] Manuel: Yeah. Oh, no, that one. No, no. But I’m telling you in the forties it could happen. Right. But, um, it is, uh, things like [00:37:00] that, uh, that are, that really change a person’s life, right? Like if she doesn’t do that technology, she would’ve passed on her entire life and she would’ve been 70 years old.

[00:37:10] Manuel: As a single, uh, lady by herself, no man, no nothing, just because she didn’t feel qualified to have a family or to have a relationship, but we were able to change those viewpoints. There’s all these other like miracles that are like, you know, you can, you can actually talk in detail about the, the results that you get, but I wanna keep it very real, right?

[00:37:32] Manuel: Like, I had a lot of people that, um, you know, like I had this lady that felt that she, um, you know, she, she had this blow, uh, blown up, uh, arthritis out, out of control, and then she gets it under control, right? And yeah, she now feels that she can determine whether she feels pain or not, right? Mm-hmm. Uh, the power of the mind Yeah.

[00:37:52] Manuel: Um, is, is what, uh, Scientology and Tics is all about. 

[00:37:57] Brad: Yep. 

[00:37:57] Manuel: How you can determine. Your [00:38:00] present, your future. My, the most beautiful thing about Scientology, I can tell you about our group and our religion is that we, uh, are not effect of anything. Mm-hmm. We’re not effect of the government, you know, like, look at you, Aaron.

[00:38:13] Manuel: You have this big company that depends on products coming from China, but you’re not crying over in a corner. You know, there, there’s, there’s changes in the government that end affecting, you know, your company in a big way and you keep going forward because we’re not victims of life. Yep. 

[00:38:29] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:38:29] Manuel: We’re not victims.

[00:38:30] Manuel: We, like the saying goes, take the bull by its horns. Right. And we’re always riding, we’re always in the front seat. And yes, we get hit a lot. Right. We get hit, we fall down, we pick ourselves up, and we keep going, but we’re never like crying in a corner saying to ourselves, yeah, you know, maybe God didn’t want it from me.

[00:38:48] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:38:49] Manuel: Mm-hmm. You know, like there’s my favorite phrase from the bible. Says God helps those that help themselves. 

[00:38:57] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:38:57] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:38:58] Manuel: This is what I believe we are. [00:39:00] Yeah. We’re people that consistently help ourselves so we can open up better opportunities, more expansion, bigger, you know, accomplishment of goals across the board.

[00:39:10] Manuel: Yeah. 

[00:39:11] Brad: Yeah. On behalf of, I wanna give you, I wanna give some props. Yeah, go ahead. I wanna give some props to Aaron on what you just said by the way, that like, just, uh, to illustrate your point on the China thing, we, we can cut this out if you don’t want it in here, but, but I want, I want to give you some, some props real quick.

[00:39:22] Brad: So we, we were talking at one point, this was months ago when the tariff thing was like, really like, huh, what’s gonna happen? Like for everybody’s like, what the hell is going on? It’s like a thousand percent. A hundred percent. And I, I think we were just talking at one point, I was like, what, what do you think?

[00:39:38] Brad: Like, did you cause this in any way? Like, I, I asked you that and Aaron was actually, he immediately said, yep, we had a program to get less product out of China and we didn’t complete it. He’s like, that’s, that’s how I’m responsible for this situation in my business. And obviously the China thing got, and, and he fully handled it, but it was like immediately, I, I remember that you had no, [00:40:00] no lag.

[00:40:00] Brad: Like I was like, did you, like, could, could you have avoided, like, predicted, avoided this? And you’re like, yep, we had this program, blah, blah, blah. Like, and then like, just handled that and got that done. And you know, I, I haven’t checked in on how it’s going, but I assume it’s better. Great. 

[00:40:13] Aaron: No, we’re going great.

[00:40:14] Aaron: I mean it’s, it’s surprising. But we’ll be, this year will be our best year, which see, which will be see which is a very strange, which 

[00:40:21] Brad: should be impossible. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. 

[00:40:23] Aaron: Yeah. Well anyway, uh, back to Manuel. So I wanna say I don’t get to give you props in 

[00:40:28] Brad: episodes very often. 

[00:40:29] Aaron: Thank you. 

[00:40:30] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:40:30] Aaron: On behalf of everybody that you helped and got them through, I wanna say thank you for everything you did in those years you put in to help.

[00:40:38] Aaron: You say it’s selfish, but I would say it’s selfless. I care. Thank you for that. 

[00:40:41] Manuel: Thank you. Thank you. So you were asking me about like, um, you wanted to talk about that for a second, but, um, 

[00:40:47] Aaron: you were moving to the business part now after you did. 

[00:40:49] Manuel: Well, I wanted to tell you about the moment for me, right? Like, I’m already, I’m already a Scientologist and, um, I already had done a lot of it.

[00:40:57] Manuel: I studied a lot. I, I was a [00:41:00] counselor, which meant many hours studying materials and everything. I still did not believe in my abilities. I still, I still, you know what? I didn’t even think about it. My wife was already an entrepreneur. She always was creating and thinking, and now what? We do this, we should do that.

[00:41:15] Brad: Yeah. She’s amazing. 

[00:41:16] Manuel: She was always been like, from the moment I met her, she’s always been entrepreneur, fruit and fruit. I wasn’t, I, I wasn’t, that’s for me, that was like something that got, it was like a, a light switch that turned on. Right. So, you know how, like they say like, entrepreneurs are born not made.

[00:41:31] Manuel: I. Yeah, I’m actually, I’ve heard made right, like I really am made, um, and I’m a good entrepreneur and I’m a good leader and I got a lot of people that follow me and I, when I put my attention on something, we actually do big things always. And I wasn’t like that for most of my life. You see? So for anybody that it’s considering like me, I wish I could do that.

[00:41:51] Manuel: Just know that whatever belief you have about yourself, I was probably there myself. So for me, the moment that changed everything was [00:42:00] not a desire to make money, was desire to stay alive. 

[00:42:06] Brad: Mm. 

[00:42:07] Manuel: 2009 

[00:42:08] Brad: mm-hmm. 

[00:42:09] Manuel: The economy collapsed in the USA. 

[00:42:11] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:42:12] Manuel: I was given a, uh, mortgage that I didn’t qualify for. 

[00:42:16] Brad: Oh, wow. 

[00:42:16] Manuel: I was given a mortgage for a $200,000 home 

[00:42:19] Brad: mm-hmm.

[00:42:20] Manuel: When I was making 600 bucks a week. And it was two mortgages, right? Like there were equal to $2,000 a month. If you do the math right, I’m making 2,400 bucks a month minus taxes. You know, maybe my wife makes another two Gs. It just, it didn’t add up. The economy collapses. Um, I don’t have any other skills and, um, I go to my job and, uh, they, they, I’m gonna, it’s payday, so I’m not good, good.

[00:42:49] Manuel: Got payday, I’m living paycheck to paycheck, a hundred percent. Whatever I make, I take it mortgage, right? Hey, diapers, mortgage, diapers, mortgage. Right? And, um, so I go [00:43:00] in and, um, they gimme the check, here’s, here’s your pay. It was cut in half and it was, uh, treated like contractor pay. ’cause I was working, um, it’s, I’m not getting into that story, but I was working as a contractor on that one.

[00:43:13] Manuel: But they couldn’t really pay anymore. They couldn’t because the economy had, people were not paying for. They were, 

[00:43:20] Aaron: you weren’t working at the church, 

[00:43:20] Manuel: correct? They were, they were, I wasn’t working at the church. They, but I had a job, but they couldn’t pay anymore. Mm-hmm. And they said, it’s, you know, that’s it.

[00:43:27] Manuel: We’re dry. So I went back to my wife and I said, they couldn’t pay me this week. Uh, they paid me half of it. Uh, what are we gonna do? And, uh, I had like a thousand dollars in the account and I had to pay a $2,000 mortgage. So that was the, the beginning of it, because I, I went down the bankruptcy path.

[00:43:46] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:43:47] Manuel: We’re like, okay, it’s over 2010 declared bankruptcy. So this is like 15 years ago. 

[00:43:52] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:43:53] Manuel: For me, the moment was, I already, I’m a sane person. Mm-hmm. I’m not into drugs. I’m not a criminal anymore. Okay. So [00:44:00] now what? I got three little kids. One of them just was just born. Wow. That year. ’cause I, they were born Wow.

[00:44:06] Manuel: 2006, 2008, 2010. 

[00:44:08] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:44:08] Manuel: So I’m broke. Okay. The economy has collapsed. You guys are too young to remember this. 

[00:44:13] Brad: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:44:14] Manuel: Because you were probably like 20 years old when this whole thing was happening. Right. Or even less. 

[00:44:17] Aaron: He was less. 

[00:44:19] Manuel: Really? 17 seven. 

[00:44:20] Brad: Like seven. 

[00:44:22] Manuel: You weren’t feeling it. You weren’t feeling it.

[00:44:23] Manuel: Yeah. 

[00:44:24] Brad: I remember looking out and being like, I don’t get it. Something’s happening. I don’t know what something’s 

[00:44:27] Manuel: happening. Right. 

[00:44:28] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:44:29] Manuel: Well, it was very dark. Yeah. And you know, it’s, it’s you, when you go for something like this, you, you never forget it, right? Mm-hmm. Uh, because it’s like, I’m looking at my kids and I’m like, I gotta do something about these little ones.

[00:44:43] Manuel: This is like, this is rough. I don’t have any money. 

[00:44:47] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:44:47] Manuel: I have to get outta this house. They’re gonna get me outta this house in two or three months, I’m gonna get evicted. 

[00:44:53] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:44:53] Manuel: I can’t pay for it anymore. So it’s called necessity level. 

[00:44:57] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:44:58] Manuel: Right. What got me [00:45:00] going as an entrepreneur to figure things out was simply the desire to help my kids and my wife.

[00:45:07] Manuel: Survive. Stay alive. That was the initial impulse. You see how there’s stages of it? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like right now, I’m an entrepreneur through and through and I am obsessed. I cannot watch a TV show. I cannot do anything but entrepreneur. That’s all I do. Seven days a week. I am too obsessed with this device right here, with my staff, with the computers, with like the opportunities, with everything.

[00:45:31] Manuel: And it’s no longer my motivation. Going back 15 years ago, those little ones, like they were my jumpstart, right? Mm-hmm. They’re like, I gotta do something. Mm-hmm. 

[00:45:41] Brad: And 

[00:45:41] Manuel: I went into research, or what do I do? Started doing a lot of seminars. I started attending free events. You know, there was like, um. I don’t know.

[00:45:50] Manuel: I remember like going into a Tampa event that was like the Robert Kiyosaki. There was this, this is the era of like the cashflow, uh, quadrant. [00:46:00] The quadrant, right? Mm-hmm. This is the era of like that. And we’re doing all these seminars and events and I was there like hungry. Yeah, I was hungry. I’m not gonna tell you the list of things that I tried before.

[00:46:11] Manuel: I actually got something that worked. And you know what that thing was, you’re probably gonna know what that was. 

[00:46:16] Aaron: Amazon? 

[00:46:17] Manuel: No, it’s called Amazon. That’s right. Yeah. 2000. And 

[00:46:20] Aaron: see, I was in the same boat by the 

[00:46:22] Manuel: way. Yeah. 2013, give 

[00:46:23] Aaron: or 

[00:46:24] Manuel: take 

[00:46:24] Aaron: every day. I did before, business wise, before Amazon was pretty trash.

[00:46:26] Manuel: 2013, I was already building my natural slim brand, uh, which is a nine figure brand with like 600 employees today across nine countries. Um, ’cause Mexico by itself has like 250, 300 employees over there. But I was already building that brand, but I wasn’t really running it. My wife was running it. And, um. We founded it in the USA.

[00:46:49] Manuel: And then I looked at her and I said, there seems to be an opportunity here with this thing called Amazon. Turns out that, you know, uh, this thing is not actually [00:47:00] Amazon products, it’s people like us. 

[00:47:02] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:47:02] Manuel: And it was like, what are you kidding me? So it was that era of opportunity and I, and I created the first Amazon account and that was like the natural slim Amazon account, uh, which does, it does millions of dollars a month right now.

[00:47:14] Manuel: And, um, uh, and then shortly after that 2014, I started building a Be Cheese brand and I started doing 600 grand a month on Amazon. 

[00:47:23] Brad: Wow. 

[00:47:25] Manuel: When I was like, you know, in my, in my pajamas at night, you know, like in, it was a beautiful thing. It’s like, you know, opportunities that come and go. But that’s how I started discovering my skills.

[00:47:35] Manuel: Like with Amazon was the first time that I jumped into the marketing world. Oh. Figure it out. Like, uh, listing optimization titles, like bullet points and like, look images and we can do this and we can get ranking and like, oh, you know, and it started, you know, getting hungry for the subject mm-hmm. Of like marketing and then it evolved into other areas and social media platforms and taking my dad and making him a star and, and [00:48:00] so on.

[00:48:00] Manuel: But it was, it was, it’s been a process and it still is a process of self discovery. 

[00:48:05] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:48:05] Manuel: Of like, you know, first of all, you gotta know that you don’t know. You gotta know. 

[00:48:11] Aaron: Yes. 

[00:48:11] Manuel: Right. 

[00:48:12] Aaron: So e every, that’s, it’s just so important, guys. 

[00:48:15] Manuel: Yeah. 

[00:48:15] Aaron: Yeah. Listen to what this guy’s about to say. 

[00:48:18] Manuel: You gotta believe, you gotta believe to the bone that you don’t know really.

[00:48:25] Manuel: What you’re capable of doing, okay? Mm-hmm. And you don’t know what information you can acquire that’s gonna change your life. Look at me. Look at Aaron, right? Mm-hmm. Like us too, that were influenced by this e-commerce opportunity that showed up in our laps, right? That’s the way it is. Like we were fortunate enough to be born in this era that there was an evolution of e-commerce.

[00:48:51] Manuel: That, that it’s today really what has built our lives and our success. Social media. Like, you know, that my father did not [00:49:00] grow up with this social media opportunity we did, right? So you have to be able to like, make yourself uncomfortable and jump into areas that maybe you felt. That you weren’t capable of doing.

[00:49:14] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:49:15] Manuel: And then you discover yourself. It’s a beautiful thing. Mm-hmm. It’s like being a speaker. Right? Like the first time I’ve been speaking on stages for 10 years, 2017, first stage I ever got into. Eight, eight, almost nine years. First time you get on the stage, you’re shitting on your pants. You know, you feel that you don’t belong.

[00:49:33] Manuel: That’s the reality. What the heck am I doing here? Am I being like an imposter? 

[00:49:37] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:49:38] Manuel: You know, you start destroying yourself. 

[00:49:40] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:49:40] Manuel: But you know what you do? You push yourself to do something that makes you uncomfortable. 

[00:49:46] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:49:46] Manuel: And then you eventually do it. You’re like, oh, you know what? I can do it. Right.

[00:49:50] Manuel: Same thing with social media. You wanna start being a communicator. Just know that at the beginning it’s gonna feel uncomfortable. Yeah. But then you go and you practice it, and you [00:50:00] develop it and so on. And then it’s a beautiful process of discovering your capabilities. 

[00:50:05] Aaron: Yeah. 

[00:50:06] Manuel: No matter what. And no matter where you’re at in your journey.

[00:50:09] Manuel: You’re never gonna find out your potential and your capabilities unless you start going on that path. And I can tell you honestly, this tool for me has been the tool that allowed me to, to open up the possibility of potential. That’s the thing. 

[00:50:28] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:50:28] Manuel: I always had it there. 

[00:50:30] Brad: Yep. 

[00:50:30] Manuel: Potential was there. Yep.

[00:50:31] Manuel: Like it’s not like suddenly I grew potential. Right. The potential was there. Like once individual potential is innate. It’s in you. Right. It’s a beautiful thing. 

[00:50:44] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:50:44] Manuel: You have it, you just don’t know what you can do with it yet. You haven’t discovered it yet. 

[00:50:50] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:50:50] Manuel: So you gotta, you gotta find the path that allows you to discover that potential and your life could be so different.

[00:50:58] Manuel: Yeah. Once you discover it, it’s a [00:51:00] beautiful thing, but it never stops. Yeah. It really does. It never stop. 

[00:51:03] Brad: Amazing. It’s 

[00:51:03] Manuel: incredible. 

[00:51:04] Brad: Oh my God, dude. Yeah. I’m just keyed out. I’m just like. I, I, you know what’s funny is obviously you’ve been doing stages for a while. It’s funny, um, actually, I’m gonna tell you something that somebody said behind your back.

[00:51:18] Brad: Okay? Uh, you may or may not know this, 

[00:51:20] Manuel: you slapped them. 

[00:51:21] Brad: Well, listen, and you tell me whether I should have slapped them. So something that, that somebody told me when you weren’t around is they, they gave you a name. Uh, you may have heard this actually, but they called you the people whisperer. 

[00:51:33] Manuel: Ah, that’s funny.

[00:51:35] Brad: Yeah. Some, somebody whose opinion I respect actually told me this. There’s, like, Manuel is, he’s, he’s a very unique individual and he’s the people whisperer. That’s literally what the name that they gave you. And, uh, you know, in seeing the relationships that you’ve built and the business opportunities that you’re doing.

[00:51:53] Brad: I mean, just the dog supplement brand alone is, is evidence. But that’s, that’s kind of like the high point of the buildup of [00:52:00] so many relationships and so many. And not, not to even discount those earlier relationships, but it’s just a greater and greater, you know, showing that ability for one. So I guess I have two questions here.

[00:52:12] Brad: First question is, do you agree with that nickname of the people whisper of you? How do you feel about that? And number two, what do you think, like, I, I, I have to just assume, because Scientology so addresses one’s ability to communicate and be in relationships with others and understand others. How much of that do you attribute to Scientology?

[00:52:31] Brad: And if anything in Scientology contributed to that, what was it? 

[00:52:34] Manuel: Uh, my, uh, my success is, uh, 100% connected with Scientology. 

[00:52:40] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:52:40] Manuel: Like 100%. 

[00:52:41] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:52:41] Manuel: Not 90%, 80%, 40%. I wouldn’t be married, I wouldn’t have a wife, I wouldn’t have kids. I wouldn’t have the life that I have. Not even, so it’s 100% attributed to it, number one, right?

[00:52:54] Manuel: Yeah. Like that’s first and foremost very important. You gotta flow power. To the people that put you [00:53:00] where you’re at and never forget Yeah. About who opened up the door to you when you were outside. 

[00:53:06] Aaron: Yeah. 

[00:53:07] Manuel: When you were in trouble. In the 

[00:53:07] Brad: cold. 

[00:53:08] Manuel: In in the cold, right. Yeah. Scientology opened up the door for me when I needed help.

[00:53:14] Manuel: Right? Mm-hmm. And, uh, I have a lot of people along the way that helped me a lot. And my father was the one that saved my life. Right. He introduced me to this technology. My wife has been my mentor like every step of the way for like a couple decades. And, uh, I drive it cra crazy a lot. That’s a story for another podcast, that’s for sure.

[00:53:32] Manuel: Um, and the, and the, the point is that we are all capable of certain potential. Yeah. And, uh, when we don’t have a path that potential is executed in a negative way. I was a very destructive person my whole life. 

[00:53:48] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:53:48] Manuel: And I did volumes of destruction. 

[00:53:51] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:53:51] Manuel: When you change direction, you un you end up doing the exact opposite.

[00:53:57] Manuel: Volumes of construction. So now I [00:54:00] do volumes of good things. Yeah. Volumes of like, good impact around me when it comes to the, uh, the people whisper comment. Right. Which is like hilarious. Right. Like, I, I just, I just don’t see that becoming a National Geographic show. Like my friend Caesar Milan, 

[00:54:18] Brad: it was this related to Caesar.

[00:54:19] Brad: It was just like 

[00:54:20] Manuel: I did get, I did get told that a few times. Uh, the reason why I built a lot of great relationships. 

[00:54:27] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:54:27] Manuel: Uh, and I can tell you why they happen. Okay. Here’s my secret. 

[00:54:32] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:54:33] Manuel: You, you walk into my office, uh, a GM marketing, there’s a big wall full of like all the connections and all the people that I work with.

[00:54:40] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:54:40] Manuel: Many of them are mentioned in my book. 

[00:54:42] Brad: It’s a good wall. 

[00:54:43] Manuel: It’s a good wall. Um, I’ve met a lot of great people, a lot of celebrities, a lot of superstars, a lot of people that have been, you know, like the cream of the crop, like the, you know, incredible human beings on this planet. Inside of religion.

[00:54:57] Manuel: Outside of religion. Mm-hmm. I met them from across [00:55:00] 

[00:55:00] Brad: a hundred percent. 

[00:55:00] Manuel: All sides. Right. And I’ve had a lot of opportunities with them. Um, for example, Cesar is one of those, Cesar is not a church member, he’s not a Scientologist, um, very spiritual guy. Right? 

[00:55:10] Brad: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:55:11] Manuel: Here’s the secret to building these relationships.

[00:55:13] Manuel: You want this secret? 

[00:55:14] Brad: I do. 

[00:55:15] Manuel: Yeah. So you actually pretty good at it too, Brad. Okay. Thanks bro. I’ll tell you, you gotta really want to help the other person. 

[00:55:22] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:55:23] Manuel: Not because you want to get something from them. 

[00:55:25] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:55:25] Manuel: You really, really want to see the power and feel its potential. 

[00:55:30] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:55:31] Manuel: And have a desire to give your best to that power.

[00:55:34] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:55:35] Manuel: Especially when you know that power can use your power. 

[00:55:40] Brad: Ah, yeah. 

[00:55:42] Manuel: I don’t ever build relationships 

[00:55:44] Brad: mm-hmm. 

[00:55:44] Manuel: Based on I wanna take something from them. 

[00:55:47] Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

[00:55:48] Manuel: This is like a senior rule in the marketing game. 

[00:55:50] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:55:51] Manuel: Like if you want to impact people on your content on social media. Don’t do it because you wanna generate leads or you want to get [00:56:00] sales, do it because you wanna help them.

[00:56:03] Manuel: That’s a beautiful thing. Yeah. And if you do this with a real intention to help them, 

[00:56:08] Brad: yeah. 

[00:56:10] Manuel: That’s gonna eventually lead to sales leads, attention opportunities, but that decision has to be real. 

[00:56:19] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:56:19] Manuel: It can’t be, like Manuel said, that I need to have a desire to help people. Right. I really do. But hey, can, can I get some leads?

[00:56:27] Manuel: Right. It, it has to be like, how can I service you? Actually, you know what, I know how I can service you. 

[00:56:34] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:56:35] Manuel: Don’t be asking me, how can I help you, Manuel. That’s right. 

[00:56:38] Brad: Right. 

[00:56:38] Manuel: It’s like, I can do this for you. I’m actually gonna get it done. You know what? It’s done. Here we go. 

[00:56:43] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:56:44] Manuel: You want to, you wanna create such an impact and you wanna do this.

[00:56:47] Manuel: This is the game plan. I’m gonna show you. You want me to train your team? I’ll train your team. 

[00:56:51] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:56:51] Manuel: So I have been doing this for years and because it’s so natural for me to do so. Mm-hmm. I win over people without trying to [00:57:00] win them over. 

[00:57:00] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:57:01] Manuel: And I create relationships and partnerships. 

[00:57:04] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:57:04] Manuel: And I start protecting them.

[00:57:05] Manuel: You know what? I protect them, my friends. 

[00:57:07] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:57:08] Manuel: I protect them. I take care of them. 

[00:57:10] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:57:10] Manuel: Nobody’s gonna screw with them when I’m around. Mm-hmm. I’m gonna make sure, because I have IQ when somebody’s trying to take from you instead of give to you, I can smell that at a distance. Right. And by the way, there’s Scientology technology.

[00:57:25] Manuel: There’s one course that has been essential, which is called Knowing Who You Can Trust. Yeah. That’s literally the name of a course. I know. I love that. It’s a course that you can do in six hours. Yep. It’s very simple. Yeah. It’s like it explains the technology Yeah. Of discovery of the different intentions of people around you.

[00:57:44] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:57:44] Manuel: So you know who should not be around you. 

[00:57:48] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:57:48] Manuel: Right. And you can protect yourself. So I try to build a shield around my friends 

[00:57:54] Brad: mm-hmm. 

[00:57:54] Manuel: And protect them. 

[00:57:55] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:57:55] Manuel: But it’s not a short term thing. It’s a very, this is a long [00:58:00] term being and a long term attitude of like, I want to give, I have zero desires to take from you.

[00:58:07] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:58:08] Manuel: I just want to give. 

[00:58:09] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:58:09] Manuel: And you know, it’s just like magic. It just opens up all these opportunities that you don’t even have to ask for. Yeah. They just keep on opening up. It’s a beautiful thing. 

[00:58:20] Brad: People whisper. 

[00:58:21] Aaron: That was beautiful. Should I thank you. That was, that was great. 

[00:58:23] Manuel: Thanks. 

[00:58:24] Aaron: Um, Manuel, in your own words, what is Scientology?

[00:58:30] Manuel: Uh, it’s applied philosophy, um, for life. Meaning that we, cytology for me is, um, is a technology. Technology, right? Uh, and a technology is, uh, a piece of information or a series of like datums and information that you can use to, to address something across any area of your life. Do you have technology to do marketing?

[00:58:59] Manuel: There’s [00:59:00] technology to create content. There’s technology to like raise a family. It tells you in, in, in cer in certain ways, how do you do something correctly, right? 

[00:59:10] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:59:11] Manuel: Scientology is a technology of life. How to win in life, how to be happy in life, how to lead a life that’s worth living. How to be a great human being.

[00:59:23] Manuel: How to be a person that, that really, um, is able to create big effects. How to create a great legacy, you know, how to stay sane and, uh. Not having any regrets for me as ontologist, that really applies to technology is out there conquering the world. 

[00:59:41] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:59:42] Manuel: Accomplishing their goals. And at the end of their life and whatever that end is, they’re gonna look back and say, I don’t have that many regrets.

[00:59:51] Manuel: Wow. Right. I live the life, life, uh, I created impact. I helped a lot of people and I feel like my, my life is creating a [01:00:00] better place, a better generation for other people down the line, you know? Which for me, that’s what legacy is all about. Right? I’m in it because I wanna build a legacy that goes beyond the life of this body that continues to help people.

[01:00:14] Manuel: That when I’m gone, people can talk about the effects that I created for hopefully generations to come. And that for me is a life we’re living. Ology gives me a roadmap for me to be able to help people at scale and to create this beautiful effect across people. It also gives me a path to stay honest.

[01:00:32] Manuel: Mm-hmm. To stay straight. 

[01:00:34] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[01:00:34] Manuel: It gives me rules. It’s like a code of conduct. 

[01:00:38] Brad: Yep. 

[01:00:38] Manuel: That I really enjoy having because it gives me a lot of protection. Imagine how difficult it is to be a criminal, you know, to have all these things to hide, you know, like some of this. 

[01:00:48] Brad: Yeah. Nobody talks about this. It’s so true.

[01:00:50] Manuel: We hear some crazy ideas. For example, husbands that have two families. Right. 

[01:00:55] Aaron: I wasn’t an Uber dude and I had a, this guy was telling me about it and it [01:01:00] happens a lot more than I Uber. The Uber driver had 

[01:01:01] two 

[01:01:02] Brad: families. 

[01:01:02] Aaron: Yes, dude. He is like, it’s so hard. Yes, dude. And he was open about he for 10 years, dude.

[01:01:07] Manuel: And he was honest about it with you? 

[01:01:08] Aaron: He was honest about it with me, but not with, I mean, can you imagine a guy in the car? Was it ongoing 

[01:01:12] Brad: when you were in the Uber? 

[01:01:13] Aaron: Yes. Not, I mean, the lady wasn’t there, but yes dude. Yes. Has kids on Uber, dude. Kids, broke kids over here on both sides. Another family, I think he has kids on both sides.

[01:01:21] Manuel: You imagine going home to your wife and, and just pretending which one. But you go home on Fridays and you pretend that you were out of town working all week. Right. Crazy. And, and you know, there’s a lot of that stuff. I had 

[01:01:32] Aaron: to Uber on the other side of town this week. Dude, explain 

[01:01:35] Manuel: the infidelity, right?

[01:01:37] Manuel: Like in, in, in that area of life, the, the drug addiction, the criminals, the alcoholic people, the like. But then you look at real Scientologists and we’re like crystal clear. 

[01:01:49] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[01:01:49] Manuel: Crystal clean. We can have a light shining at us and we got nothing to hide. 

[01:01:55] Aaron: Yeah. 

[01:01:55] Manuel: It’s a beautiful thing to have something like that.

[01:01:57] Aaron: Yep. 

[01:01:57] Manuel: To have a, I can tell you, me being a [01:02:00] wild horse that I was my whole life, Scientology gives me a discipline, like it gives me a lane. 

[01:02:05] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[01:02:06] Manuel: Right? It’s a lane that I can stay so I can keep on growing and expanding and doing more. 

[01:02:12] Aaron: Yeah. 

[01:02:12] Manuel: I needed lanes, guys. 

[01:02:13] Aaron: Yep. 

[01:02:14] Manuel: You know, like when we go and do me, course same.

[01:02:16] Manuel: When we do, when we do course that we go and study materials, we gotta be there at one o’clock, right? 

[01:02:21] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[01:02:21] Manuel: Like if we say we’re gonna be one o’clock, we gotta be there at one o’clock, right? Mm-hmm. 

[01:02:25] Brad: Yep. 

[01:02:25] Manuel: I need that. Keep your word. Yep. I need discipline. Me too. In my life. Without discipline, it’s not good.

[01:02:31] Brad: Yeah, same. 

[01:02:32] Manuel: So for me, the, the Scientology Group, the technology gives me something that allows me to stay on the lane, plus the technology to apply. That I’m able to like, grow and keep growing and expanding and so on. I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t change this for anything in the world. And I feel like it’s, we’re being, we’ve been lucky, not only lucky we’ve been smart 

[01:02:52] Brad: mm-hmm.

[01:02:53] Manuel: To be able to use this technology and make it a part of our lives. It’s a beautiful thing. 

[01:02:57] Brad: Agreed. 

[01:02:58] Aaron: Amazing. Yeah. And that’s called, it’s [01:03:00] the way to happiness. The lane is the way to happiness. And on the, on the infidelity thing, it’s so interesting ’cause our Harvard in the book talks about how the powerful religion of Buddhism, the downfall, like obviously it’s still around, but when it was in massive bloom, the promiscuity inside the monasteries brought them down.

[01:03:19] Manuel: Absolutely. 

[01:03:20] Aaron: Okay. 

[01:03:20] Brad: Yeah. 

[01:03:20] Aaron: And if you look at the histories in the Bible mm-hmm. The, the, just the, the history of mankind, there’s so much mm-hmm. Pain that powerful men get taken down. 

[01:03:30] Brad: Yeah. 

[01:03:30] Aaron: By, by that they get targeted through that. I mean, not like, it’s literally pretty much every religion, almost every single religion 

[01:03:37] Brad: on the planet that’s ever been.

[01:03:39] Aaron: It is, 

[01:03:39] Brad: yeah. 

[01:03:40] Aaron: The only thing is a lot of people fall for it, even though it’s in the scripture. Right. That and that, and that’s, and that’s the downfall that that part has been such a downfall for so many people. And I think it’s, I mean, at least for, for me personally, like getting the audit thing. Getting the counseling mm-hmm.

[01:03:53] Aaron: And knowing you’re gonna be fully open about everything and 

[01:03:56] Manuel: then you’re, and then you just keep it straight. 

[01:03:57] Aaron: And I don’t think, dude, I don’t [01:04:00] know how it would be. I mean, I just think it’s, we’re lucky, dude. That’s what I have to say. 

[01:04:03] Brad: It’s true. Absolutely. That’s true. 

[01:04:05] Manuel: We really are. 

[01:04:06] Brad: Yeah. Gives you a path and puts sides, cha sides on the channel.

[01:04:11] Manuel: That’s right. 

[01:04:11] Brad: Yeah. Sides on the channel. 

[01:04:12] Manuel: That’s right. 

[01:04:13] Brad: Okay. I think we’re basically at time. 

[01:04:15] Manuel: Great. Yeah. 

[01:04:16] Brad: Manuel, I, I wanna give you the opportunity, we don’t usually do this, but I want to give you the opportunity to give a, a closing message to anybody who sees this, who you know, maybe actually isn’t a Scientologist who’s, uh, looking for something.

[01:04:29] Brad: What would you tell that person? 

[01:04:31] Manuel: Um, look for yourself. Uh, find out if Scientology is exactly what you need. You can go to scientology.org and do some of the free courses that have changed my life. And, uh, it’s all available. There’s no, um, technology, no spiritual technology that is disseminated and distributed so aggressively with so much intention and us the successful entrepreneurs in our church [01:05:00] that we produce millions of dollars.

[01:05:02] Manuel: We don’t put those dollars in our pockets. We, yeah, sometimes we buy ourselves some watches and cars and stuff like that, but we put a lot of energy in helping our church. Mm-hmm. I can tell you we do that for a reason. Uh, and uh, it’s because we believe in it so much. Our lives got switched so dramatically got flipped upside down so much that we don’t sleep well at night unless we’re doing everything that we can to have people like you get introduced to this technology because we know it can help you.

[01:05:35] Manuel: We know it can change your lives, whether that’s personally for your own goals, your own ambitions in your relationships with your family, in the groups that you’re a part of, as a member of society as a whole, whatever it is that you want to accomplish, there’s a technology for it that you study and you can apply.

[01:05:55] Manuel: So just believe that you have potential. Just know that you have [01:06:00] potential and use something that is gonna help you develop that potential and bring it back to life. ’cause it’s there. Mm-hmm. It doesn’t have to be given to you. Mr. Hubbard is not going to give you potential. He’s going to allow you to rediscover it and put it to work and get into action and start accomplishing dreams and goals that you knew you had, but you didn’t quite know exactly how to get there.

[01:06:25] Manuel: So it’s about taking action. My life is built on a series of decisions to take action. That’s all it is. Mm-hmm. Don’t, I mean, isn’t the name of this podcast Don’t do Nothing? 

[01:06:36] Brad: That’s right. 

[01:06:36] Manuel: Right? Don’t do nothing. Take action. See for yourself. Don’t listen to opinions about it. Go and take a look at it. Study the material so you can see how brilliant it is and how lucky we are to have access to this technology that’s gonna improve your life.

[01:06:53] Manuel: It’s time to take action. Do whatever you can to get your first step done. Study your first book. Study your [01:07:00] first course, and your life will never be the same. That’s a promise. 

[01:07:04] Brad: Boom, baby. And on that note, don’t do nothing.