Don't Do Nothing

[00:00:00] Brenna: I have to get four kids to school every day. I mean, it’s like, it’s like having a psycho daycare, 

[00:00:04] Aaron: having children and raising children. Everything is like the hardest thing. 

[00:00:07] Brenna: It’s a lot of work. How 

[00:00:07] Aaron: do you do 

[00:00:07] Brenna: both? Both. All of that is a lot of work. 

[00:00:09] Aaron: How about a baby? 

[00:00:10] Brenna: How about a baby? But I just feel like it’s my calling to help others.

[00:00:14] Brenna: If something’s hard to confront, I do it more. I became an executive at 16. I was running a ton of people. Mm-hmm. When I was 16 years old. Production is the basis of morale, 

[00:00:22] Aaron: ladies and gentlemen. Today I have with me a good friend and a spectacularly successful person in many areas of life. This is Brenna Turra.

[00:00:30] Aaron: She owns and runs the Business Academy, which is a consulting and training company for chiropractors which help the world. Mm-hmm. Okay. She is a mother of four Amazing boys. Yes. Okay. She is a second generation Scientologist, along with her husband, who is also second generation Scientologist, and her late father-in-law worked directly with Arun Hubbard on the ship Apollo.

[00:00:54] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:00:55] Aaron: She volunteered her. To helping the aims and [00:01:00] goals of Scientology for 16 years. And it’s actually where we met. ’cause I was doing the same thing at the same time. 

[00:01:04] Brenna: Yeah. 

[00:01:04] Aaron: And I just want, we’re gonna get into it. But anyway, welcome to the show. 

[00:01:08] Brenna: Thank you. Thank you so much for having me here. And this is great.

[00:01:10] Aaron: Yeah, absolutely. And, uh, I guess I, I wanna just open like, gosh, I don’t know, honestly, I have to tell like, I don’t know if you know this. Yeah. But I think one of the reasons that me and my wife have four children is because you have four children. What? 

[00:01:24] Brad: Oh, wow. 

[00:01:24] Aaron: I just have like, honestly, like, I just, it, it just, it’s an example, right.

[00:01:28] Aaron: People said example for each other. And I just have to say like, I, I, that was incredible. I remember, I was like, wow, that’s a lot of children. You know, like, well that’s a lot of kids. And then at some 

[00:01:37] Brenna: point I had them in five years. 

[00:01:38] Aaron: Yeah. That, that is 

[00:01:39] Brenna: four kids in five years. 

[00:01:41] Aaron: Like how, like first, I guess let’s just go into that.

[00:01:43] Aaron: Okay. Like, why like. Why were you so passionate about or otherwise ended up with, you know, four children? Like, how, how, what was, what’s the drive for you? 

[00:01:52] Brenna: Well, I always wanted to have a big family. Yeah. I mean, I decided later, you know, like I started at 33 years old. 

[00:01:57] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:01:57] Brenna: And I was like, do I wanna live in diaper land [00:02:00] forever or do I wanna just have a bunch of kids and then I can, we can all grow together and I can get it done.

[00:02:04] Brenna: I’ve always been from a young age, I just do it. Mm-hmm. If I’m gonna do something, I go like a hundred percent. 

[00:02:09] Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:02:10] Brenna: I do. Not 400% in. 400% in, yeah. And that’s one thing I feel like is something I learned from Scientology mm-hmm. That helped me in my life more than anything is like, if something’s hard to confront, I do it more.

[00:02:20] Brenna: Wow. You know, if it’s, if it’s difficult, give me two. I literally have that mentality with everything that’s, if I can’t handle my job, I’m gonna take another job. 

[00:02:28] Aaron: Wow. 

[00:02:28] Brenna: I’m gonna do this too. I’m gonna handle it in addition to your first job. In addition to my first job. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, 

[00:02:33] Brad: yeah. 

[00:02:35] Brenna: But like, you know, what’s the hardest thing to do today at my battle plan?

[00:02:38] Brenna: I’m gonna do that first because if I can’t confront, I’m never gonna get it done. 

[00:02:41] Brad: Yep. 

[00:02:42] Brenna: You know, you’re never gonna complete things, you’re never gonna get products, you’re never gonna finish cycles. So when I decided to have kids, I was like, I wanna have four kids. 

[00:02:49] Brad: This 

[00:02:50] Brenna: is gonna be great. And I, I was, I was sitting with one of my friends, um, and she was saying like, I have two kids.

[00:02:55] Brenna: Like, you don’t want four kids. That is so much work. Two kids is so much work. I’m like, I don’t [00:03:00] care. 

[00:03:00] Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

[00:03:00] Brenna: I could do it. Look, I’ve done so many things in my life, I could have kids. 

[00:03:04] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:03:04] Brenna: And okay. Kids tested me, you know, I’ve done a lot of stuff and I was like, I thought I did the hardest stuff in my life.

[00:03:10] Brenna: And then I had kids, you know? Yeah, 

[00:03:11] Brad: yeah, yeah. 

[00:03:12] Brenna: But it’s obviously the most rewarding thing of all time. Like I’ve had, you know, the beauty of child childbirth and everything, and the amount of weight that I gained and then I lost, and then again, again after every kid, you know, so that’s obviously a rollercoaster, but.

[00:03:25] Brenna: Just the beauty of everything. I did ’em all natural at my house. 

[00:03:29] Wow. All four home births. 

[00:03:31] Brenna: Yep. Well, the first one, we didn’t have a big enough home, so we did a, uh, at a birthing center. 

[00:03:35] Brad: Birthing center. 

[00:03:35] Brenna: Mm-hmm. Yeah. But all three are born in the house they still live in right now. 

[00:03:38] Brad: Wow. 

[00:03:38] Brenna: The other three. 

[00:03:39] Brad: Wow.

[00:03:39] Brenna: And, but all home, all natural. I felt every second of that. 

[00:03:44] Brad: That is so impressive. 

[00:03:45] Brenna: Yeah. Amazing. Again, this is another thing. I was like, I’m gonna do it. Right. Like, if that’s the best for the child. Mm. I I just kept telling myself I could do anything for a day. 

[00:03:54] Brad: Yeah. Yep. 

[00:03:54] Brenna: I bet if any of those labors went 25 hours, I would’ve tapped out.

[00:03:59] Brenna: That [00:04:00] was you made the decision 

[00:04:00] Brad: I could do for what day. 

[00:04:01] Brenna: Exactly. I knew I could. I I just kept thinking I could do anything for a day. 

[00:04:05] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:04:06] Brenna: I could, I could endure pain. Yeah. I could do anything for a day, you know? Yeah. I just kept telling myself that when it was happening. I’m like, I can do this. You know?

[00:04:13] Brenna: So, and I put myself in a position when I couldn’t back out. ’cause if I’m at home, I can’t, you know? That’s true. Transition is happening. I can’t, I can’t, 

[00:04:20] Aaron: you can’t transfer to the 

[00:04:21] Brenna: hospital. Can’t transfer when you’re in the middle of it. Mm-hmm. Going down. Mm-hmm. You know? I try to put fail safe so I can’t back out, basically.

[00:04:28] Brenna: Yeah. But that’s just kind of how, you know, when I wanted to have kids after she kept telling me that, I’m like, no, I could do it. You don’t know me. Yeah. I’ve done so many hard things. I mean, I used to raise millions of dollars for fundraising. I used to get people to join organizations. They, you know, raise their ethics level.

[00:04:43] Brenna: I was an ethics officer for a really long time. Mm-hmm. So getting people to confront that, 

[00:04:46] Brad: oh wow, 

[00:04:47] Brenna: I could do this. Yeah, yeah. You know, so I was like, 

[00:04:49] Aaron: I just wanna say Ethics officer guys. So Ethics Officer, let’s just talk about that. I think we should like, just define an ethics 

[00:04:53] Brenna: officer. Yeah. Yeah, that’s a good one.

[00:04:54] Brenna: So Ethics Officer is somebody, so ethics is a personal thing, and it’s based on the moral code of your [00:05:00] what? Your moral code and the moral code code of the group. So if somebody is low in ethics, they’re violating the moral codes of the group. And so I am trained in the technology from all of my training in Scientology use that you can use in all parts of your life, in business, in personal, in anything.

[00:05:16] Brenna: And to raise and help people make sane decisions mm-hmm. For their dynamics. 

[00:05:21] Mm-hmm. 

[00:05:21] Brenna: And things that will help them survive. So that’s what ethics is. So it’s really, it’s a, you know, I’ve helped people go from really terrible out ethics conditions that were illegal out, you know, like all sorts of things.

[00:05:35] Brenna: So we just personal out ethics doing, stepping out on their family, you know, things like that. 

[00:05:40] Mm-hmm. 

[00:05:41] Brenna: And helping them see what is pro survival for them, what’s really gonna help them in their life and change their life around. 

[00:05:48] Aaron: So it would take responsibility, like, hello, sorry. Responsibility. 

[00:05:50] Brenna: Yeah. 

[00:05:50] Aaron: Like, uh, if you had a baby, you better take care of that baby.

[00:05:53] Aaron: I’m sorry. You can’t leave like, 

[00:05:55] Brenna: no. Right. Yeah. You committed to something, stuff 

[00:05:56] Aaron: like that. 

[00:05:56] Brenna: Yeah. You committed to something like. You know, finish a commitment or [00:06:00] stop the commitment before you start a new commitment, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it’s, uh, so anyways, that’s great too. So that’s using the conditions that El Ron Hubbard wrote to help someone raise their ethics level.

[00:06:12] Brenna: So, yeah. 

[00:06:13] So 

[00:06:13] Aaron: you, so basically like you could do all the stuff, kids, no big deal. That was kind of your viewpoint going in. 

[00:06:19] Brenna: Yeah, I’m like, I’m just gonna do it. So I just went forward. Um, and then I, after I had one kid, I, you know, I didn’t know I was gonna do ’em in five years, like four kids. I didn’t, I didn’t originally.

[00:06:29] Brenna: That is so fast. Decide that fast. Yeah. Yeah. It’s a lot. Yeah. That’s so bad. So I had one, my, my biggest difference in kids’ age is two years and like three months or something like that. So the first one is like 19 months apart and then 20 months apart. And anyway, so I went 19 

[00:06:43] Aaron: months and 20 months apart.

[00:06:43] Aaron: Those are called, uh, Irish twins. 

[00:06:45] Brenna: I think they have to be within a year. So it’s like, oh, 

[00:06:47] Aaron: within one year. 

[00:06:48] Brenna: Yeah. Oh, sorry. They’re 

[00:06:49] Aaron: not Irish. Okay. Okay. I take it 

[00:06:50] Brenna: back. But anyways, it’s pretty close. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean, it’s, they, everyone thinks they’re twins anyway. Like the first two 100% think they’re twins.

[00:06:57] Brenna: They’re the same size. Same. They look, they look similar. Yeah. 

[00:06:59] Brad: Yeah. [00:07:00] 

[00:07:00] Brenna: So I had one and then I was like, we wanna have a, you know, they needs a brother or a sister. Like, you know, also, it really helps when kids need someone to play with. Mm-hmm. 

[00:07:08] Brad: Yes. 

[00:07:08] Brenna: That becomes all you do, you know, and I love playing with my kids, but they also need playmates, right?

[00:07:13] Brenna: So I gave them lots of playmates, you know, 

[00:07:15] Brad: smart. 

[00:07:16] Brenna: Um, but then they had another one. And I just love having kids. Like, I literally, I, I went to a whole mode at the time of like, I just wanna do stuff for kids. I wanted to help, you know, human trafficking. And I was doing help promoting. Anti-human trafficking and stuff like that.

[00:07:29] Brenna: ’cause I saw how it negative, you know, all the stuff with kids. Like, I was just going on, I was even telling my husband, when our kids are all grown, maybe we should adopt, 

[00:07:37] Aaron: you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 

[00:07:37] Brenna: yeah. Anyways, my husband like loses shit when he said that, but Yeah. Yeah. He’s like kidding. We’re done. We’re done.

[00:07:45] Brenna: But um, so 

[00:07:46] Aaron: you were the driving force in the children, not your 

[00:07:47] Brenna: husband? No, he wanted it to. Okay, okay. Okay. I wanna know four at the beginning, you know, definitely two. Three. He was 100%. Our fourth was a surprise. 

[00:07:56] Aaron: Okay. 

[00:07:56] Brenna: You know? Oh yeah. Um, I definitely wanted four, but we were planning on [00:08:00] waiting and ah, it Your 

[00:08:02] Aaron: original, uh, 

[00:08:03] Brenna: decision, my original stuck True.

[00:08:04] Brenna: Yeah. And we are so, I mean, our fourth kid is literally the easiest, happy go lucky dude. Loves being in a boy family. Yeah. And I mean, they’re just a bunch of boys. It’s exactly what you imagine. Insane. My God. It’s the chaos, the level. But it’s so fun too. It’s like their love is huge. Their crazy is huge, you know?

[00:08:22] Aaron: Yes. 

[00:08:22] Brenna: All that. 

[00:08:24] Aaron: So, you know, in today’s world, like I guess the mother, like the mother job mm-hmm. The, the, the, the woman in a way is kind of told like that their job is not so important. I mean, I don’t know. Absolutely. This is, if you guys believe this or you guys, okay. But like, hey, like put your career first to this, start all this, all these, these ideas.

[00:08:45] Aaron: And so, you know, you’ve managed to have an amazing career. And have four children. Like, like it’s kind of like, you know, have your cake and eat it too. Right? Like how, how did you manage to just put [00:09:00] everything to go forward at the same time instead of kind of be like, well, I’ll be a mother and not, you know, do this other stuff.

[00:09:05] Aaron: How do you manage to do everything? Because as you said, the hardest, I mean, having children and raising kids, children, everything is like the hardest thing, right? 

[00:09:13] Brenna: Yeah. So, yeah, it’s a lot of work. 

[00:09:14] Aaron: How do you do both? 

[00:09:14] Brenna: Both. All of that is a lot of work. And it’s funny, my clients ask me this all the time. Okay.

[00:09:17] Brenna: And because it totally, it’s, it’s a lot. Now people talk about like work life balance. You have to do one or the other, or a hundred percent either like. Negatively shame kind of a mom for only wanting to be a mom. 

[00:09:30] Aaron: Absolutely. 

[00:09:30] Brenna: Or, you know, shame a mom for only wanting to work mm-hmm. Or wanting to work.

[00:09:34] Brenna: Mm-hmm. Because you’re not really being a mom Yeah. And not taking care of your kids. 

[00:09:37] Aaron: Mm. Right. 

[00:09:37] Brenna: And so I just, first of all, I, I just figured out what I felt was ethical for my life and my family and my kids. I was a hundred percent when they needed me. A hundred percent. I nursed all my kids until they were 18 months old.

[00:09:49] Mm-hmm. Wow. 

[00:09:50] Brenna: And when I, um, my first two kids, I was working, you know, like I was, I was still, I figured out a way to produce, ’cause I wasn’t, I didn’t own the company at the time, I was a [00:10:00] salesperson. So I figured out a way to, to still produce while I was like going and nursing and then coming back. And working out my schedule, and I would be present when I had to be present at work and I was present at home when I needed to be, and I rearranged my schedule.

[00:10:13] Brenna: I just made things go right. 

[00:10:14] Mm-hmm. 

[00:10:14] Brenna: I was just like, I learned to make things go right. 

[00:10:17] Yeah. 

[00:10:17] Brenna: Um, I also, I did take a little break because I had so many littles for a while, so there’s like a two and a half year break where I was like, 100% with my kids and beautiful. You know, and then they went to, at like year and a half, two years old, they went to a daycare.

[00:10:32] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:10:33] Brenna: Or my older one started going to like a real preschool. And then, you know, I’m always there and I always make a point, like I’m there at nights most of the time. If I have to do something, then I, you know, make up the time or like some weekend I just make the experience. I’m so present. 

[00:10:46] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:10:46] Brenna: They, they, they don’t know any difference.

[00:10:48] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:10:48] Brenna: You know, and I know, I mean, now my kids are all in school. It’s like, I mean, I’m not doing anything during the day. Might as well work, you know, like, I gotta work now. 

[00:10:58] Brad: Yeah. The school years are, we [00:11:00] just had our, our oldest one just get into school. It’s like night and day difference. 

[00:11:03] Brenna: Oh yeah. It’s, 

[00:11:04] Brad: oh my gosh.

[00:11:04] Brenna: Yeah. ’cause they’re really de they have a whole new dynamic there, and they have all their friends and stuff, but still, it’s like, okay, what happens if one kid gets sick? Both of me and my husband work at this company and we own it. Mm-hmm. Like, there’s the, the buck stops here with us, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So sometimes Quentin stays home half the day and I stay home half the day.

[00:11:21] Brenna: Or sometimes, you know, they’re, they’re getting in a corner of the office and we’re making it work. Or I’ll stay home the whole time. It’s really bad. You know what I mean? It’s, I just make it work and I look at the overall, what I have to achieve and I make, you know, I make our vacations super present and fun.

[00:11:36] Brenna: And then we’re I just there? 

[00:11:38] Aaron: Yeah. 

[00:11:39] Brenna: When I need to be there. 

[00:11:40] Aaron: Amazing. That’s 

[00:11:40] Brenna: awesome. And but any of these One thing, I mean like a lot of my friends are even like, how do you and I like, expand my company all the time and how do I, I I hold huge events and help a lot of people and I love it, but I just feel like it’s my calling to help others and I wanna help my family and I wanna help everyone else who’s never, you know, been helped that needs it.[00:12:00] 

[00:12:00] Brad: Okay. Can we talk about the business? 

[00:12:02] Brenna: Yeah. 

[00:12:02] Brad: So what, what exactly is, so it’s the business academy. 

[00:12:06] Brenna: Yep. 

[00:12:06] Brad: What exactly does the Business Academy do in your own words? 

[00:12:10] Brenna: Okay. So the business, we’re a consulting company for chiropractors mostly. We also do medically integrated practices. So, um, what 

[00:12:16] Brad: does that mean?

[00:12:16] Brenna: It means that if a chiropractor wants to expand their services and be able to help more people, we’ll add in like a nurse practitioner. Or a medical provider to be able to do other regenerative services that, that are still natural based. 

[00:12:31] Brad: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:12:31] Brenna: Like, uh, stem cell injection or, oh, there’s different services.

[00:12:35] Brenna: I could get into a lot of words, but there’s a lot of different, different iv like soft Right, exactly. Different types 

[00:12:39] Aaron: of, uh, 

[00:12:40] Brenna: different modalities. 

[00:12:41] Brad: Stuff that needs an, uh, an an extra license basically. 

[00:12:43] Brenna: Yes, exactly. Got it. And so, um, we help them team up to be able to create that kind of practice. 

[00:12:49] Brad: Mm. 

[00:12:49] Brenna: Um, and then sometimes we’ll just have a straight nurse practitioner as a client, or we’ve had acupuncturists, we’ve had, you know, in the natural healthcare field.

[00:12:57] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:12:57] Brenna: So, we’ll, I mean, we’ll help anybody, but that’s [00:13:00] usually our clientele. 

[00:13:01] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:13:01] Brenna: And so we teach them how to expand their practice through using Hubbard management system. Which is amazing because as Scientologists, we use it in our personal life. We use it in everything. Yeah. And there’s a whole set of services that you could do, but the reason why everyone sees Scientology everywhere is ’cause it’s the fastest growing religion on the planet.

[00:13:21] Brad: That’s right. 

[00:13:22] Brenna: And why is that? Because he had the most amazing management tools. 

[00:13:25] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:13:25] Brenna: Like, I mean, it’s a business in, in a sense, right? It’s like you have to apply certain formulas and certain statistical analysis to be able to continuously build any organization, nonprofit, profit. So it was brilliant that they allowed people who are not using it for a Scientology or for a spiritual wellness mm-hmm.

[00:13:46] Brenna: To be able to help in, in the business world. 

[00:13:48] Brad: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

[00:13:49] Brenna: So I use the materials that relate 

[00:13:51] Brad: to that. You know, that’s a great point actually. Mm-hmm. That’s a great point. I’ve never considered. Sorry for interrupting. Yeah, no, 

[00:13:55] Brenna: that’s okay. 

[00:13:55] Brad: Did you catch that? It, it, the church allows people to use it [00:14:00] in their businesses, even though it’s actually LRH is proprietary technology that he developed.

[00:14:05] Brad: The religion. 

[00:14:06] Brenna: Mm-hmm. 

[00:14:06] Brad: That’s actually a great, I never, I never considered that. 

[00:14:08] Aaron: Yeah. It’s a viewpoint. I never 

[00:14:09] Brad: That’s a great viewpoint. 

[00:14:10] Brenna: It’s, I mean, it’s, it’s amazing because the thing about 

[00:14:12] Aaron: it could be easy to be there. Like, oh, I know all this stuff. I’m gonna keep it. Yeah. You know what I mean? 

[00:14:15] Brenna: Yeah. It’s like hoarded for us or something.

[00:14:17] Brenna: No. Yeah. I mean, it’s awesome. So I have a license to be able to use it in a way that’s not religion. So we have secular use. 

[00:14:24] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:14:24] Brenna: I don’t force anyone to be religious in any way. We don’t, we still have the principle of if it’s true for you, it’s true for you. 

[00:14:31] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:14:31] Brenna: In any case. 

[00:14:32] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:14:32] Brenna: Um, I’m a Scientologist and all day I’ll tell people that, but my clients never have to be.

[00:14:37] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:14:38] Brenna: And a lot of them are not, and most of them are not. Mm-hmm. You know, they just use it because it works. 

[00:14:42] Brad: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:14:43] Brenna: I’ve had clients that are, uh, very religious in their own right. Deacons of their church, very, uh, you know, very Christian, very Mormon, very any different religion. And I so respect that of them.

[00:14:54] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:14:55] Brenna: Because I think everyone needs to have some spiritual outlet. That’s right. A hundred percent. Like, you know, be spiritual. Like, and I have [00:15:00] the best like family men and family women that like really build and are such a great example of a human. Mm-hmm. I mean, I, I just meet the most amazing humans all day.

[00:15:08] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:15:08] Brenna: And then they see this, it makes sense. It works. So they don’t care where it comes from. Right. It works. And that’s a really sane person that can. Not listen to the noise that comes in and the, you know, one or 2% of the population of someone who got kicked out of a religion, you know, craps on it.

[00:15:27] Aaron: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

[00:15:28] Brenna: Instead of listening those people like actually reads it for themselves and it’s like, damn, this actually works. So we teach people how to, you know, track statistics properly, how to, what formulas you use when the, when statistics are up or down, we teach them how to have a high, high ethics level.

[00:15:42] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:15:43] Brenna: We teach their staff how to have high ethics level. I mean, how long do you think it is to have someone come in and teach your employees to take responsibility? 

[00:15:49] Aaron: Oh my God. That’s important. 

[00:15:51] Brenna: I mean, amazing, right? It’s like if we can, like in our seminars, we, we really help, uh, their staff also ’cause their staff attend to talk [00:16:00] about, like, take more ownership of your job.

[00:16:02] Brenna: Yeah. Be the boss of the front desk. That’s the buck stops there. Like, take responsibility. 

[00:16:06] Brad: The, the difference in employees who take responsibility and don’t take responsibility for like the, the layman term for that would be. If you have have employees who don’t take responsibility, you are forced to work in your business.

[00:16:20] Brad: Yes. You’re forced to. You have to by necessity. 

[00:16:22] Brenna: Yes. Yeah. 

[00:16:22] Brad: When your employees start taking responsibility, now you are able to work on your business. Exactly. Is what I would hear my Yeah. You know, non Scientologist friends. Yeah. Describe 

[00:16:30] Brenna: it. And that’s what we help people do. Yeah. Instead of having to work in, they work on, or they can work on in a Tahiti somewhere.

[00:16:37] Brenna: Yeah. Uh, sipping, you know, my size or something. Right. Yeah. So they can work from a distance at some point. I mean, we have clients that have, you know, six practices or more, and they don’t have to be in the office at all. Wow, 

[00:16:47] Brad: amazing. 

[00:16:47] Brenna: I have one guy, he only comes in to just get an adjustment from his chiropractor and he has like four clinics because he’s, we’ve helped him put systems in, we helped him how to sell, we teach him how to sell.

[00:16:58] Brenna: And we have some proprietary [00:17:00] training specifically for this field on the sequence of a sales cycle. 

[00:17:04] Yeah. 

[00:17:04] Brenna: And how to help a patient. But it’s a lot of the communication skills that we teach is all based on the works of, and Hubbard. 

[00:17:10] Mm-hmm. 

[00:17:11] Brenna: Because it’s like, it’s phenomenal. There is no other place. And I have people who have gone to lots of different consulting companies and they’ll go and they learn stuff and they’re all great.

[00:17:20] Brenna: I mean, it’s amazing. I had somebody yesterday, it was so awesome. I had a client tell me, he said he’s done like five exec courses with us. Mm-hmm. So that’s a lot of training with us. So they learn a lot from l Ron Hubbard, all secular. And he’s a very strong Mormon. Mm-hmm. And he is, yeah, he’s got like. 30 family members every, every time they do like Thanksgiving, he sends me these pictures.

[00:17:39] Brenna: It’s amazing. 

[00:17:40] Aaron: Huge family. 

[00:17:40] Brenna: A huge family. I love it. I love it. Me too. He’s, he’s so great. Anyway, so, um, 

[00:17:44] Aaron: they got you beat? 

[00:17:45] Brenna: Yeah, he’s got me beat, I think he has like eight or nine kids, and I’m like, oh God. Okay. I thought four was a lot. Anyway, so yesterday he was telling me, um, how valuable the training he had was.

[00:17:59] Brenna: Yeah. And how he [00:18:00] did it and how he can apply it the next day. And he said his son had gone to another seminar from a consultant and he goes, I think he’s stealing stuff from Elron Hubbard. 

[00:18:09] Mm-hmm. 

[00:18:09] Brenna: Because he said something that I read, but he is not, you know, acknowledging him. And I was like, yeah, I mean, it’s so good.

[00:18:16] Brenna: People are gonna take things that work. And also any con any, there’s some things that are just general truths. 

[00:18:22] Aaron: Yeah, yeah. 

[00:18:22] Brenna: You know, I’m not saying it’s all, every successful actions from me and Hubbard, but there’s some general truths that get distilled. But what he said that I thought was so awesome, he goes, you know, my son came back with all these big ideas.

[00:18:33] Brenna: Based on the concepts that he was given, but when I showed him my material, it was like A, B, C, D, like it was systematized. Mm-hmm. 

[00:18:41] Brad: Yep. 

[00:18:41] Brenna: It’s like you could take these great theories and put ’em into like literal step checklists on how to turn things around. 

[00:18:47] Aaron: Yep. 

[00:18:47] Brenna: Like the condition formulas, like what to do when something’s going wrong, what to do when something’s going right.

[00:18:52] Brenna: And he was so, he was been on a roll. I was like, I need, I should recorded this. This is like a great testimony. Yeah. Um, but it was, 

[00:18:57] Aaron: you guys have a podcast? You could record it. No. [00:19:00] 

[00:19:00] Brenna: You have a We totally could have. Yeah. I mean, it was a phone call. Right. Okay. So I was like, I, you know, I gotta figure out how to, I, I had it on Zoom.

[00:19:04] Brenna: I literally could have just pressed record. Yeah. Yeah. I realized after the talk, I’m like, oh my God. But, but that was such a good example and it’s like no one at any point has ever tried to make him become a Scientologist. It’s not, that’s not the point. It’s like, I just wanna help people with something that works.

[00:19:16] Brenna: Yep. It’s helped me in my life. It’s helped me, you know, again, I have lots of clients come up to me and like, how can you do this? I mean, almost everybody in my age range has kids. Lots of people do, obviously there’s some people who decide not to. It’s fine. 

[00:19:28] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:19:28] Brenna: But it’s like, I have one kid and I just can’t even make it to work on time, you know?

[00:19:33] Brenna: And I was like, I have to get four kids to school every day. I mean, it’s like that you think my cr life is crazy. It’s like, it’s like having a psycho daycare. Yeah. All the time, you know? Yeah. But you know, it’s, it’s crazy and they’re super energetic. But anyways, but that’s, uh, that’s how I do it. It’s like apply, um, the tone scale, the emotional tone scale.

[00:19:51] Brenna: Mm-hmm. I teach that to clients. 

[00:19:53] Brad: Oh, so good. 

[00:19:53] Brenna: I mean, I teach it to my kids, 

[00:19:55] Brad: right? 

[00:19:55] Brenna: Yeah. I have a tone scale in my kids’ playroom. 

[00:19:58] Brad: You 

[00:19:58] Brenna: do? And it’s up there and it’s literally [00:20:00] like, that’s great. Hey, are you, you know it. Where 

[00:20:02] Brad: are you at right 

[00:20:02] Brenna: now? Where are we at? They’re all fighting. Wow. Where are 

[00:20:05] Brad: you? 

[00:20:06] Brenna: Yeah. If they’re all fighting, point yourself out on the televis look.

[00:20:08] Brenna: And I have the one that has all the little fuzzy pictures. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I give this one to my clients all the time that have a lot of kids. Yeah. I love that. I’m like, do this. It works so well. It’s like if you’re all being antagonistic to each other and you’re fighting mm-hmm. You see this with the red people and it’s not really like the best way to talk, right?

[00:20:21] Brenna: Yeah. Yeah. How about let’s be more like the yellow guys on the top, you know? Yeah. Like, you could talk a little easier and you having fun like, Hmm, okay. And then like the green and the blue people are like crying and like really sad. And it’s like, you know, and, and sometimes they have a friend at school that’s kind of mean.

[00:20:36] Brenna: I help ’em figure out. Where are they in the tone scale? 

[00:20:38] Wherever they, 

[00:20:39] Brenna: where, where’s that friend at? Is that really a friend? You know, I’m not saying you have to be mean to him, but maybe he’s not your best friend. Maybe we find someone that has more affinity for you and is treating you nicer. 

[00:20:49] Brad: Oh yeah.

[00:20:49] Brad: That’s a good idea. Love 

[00:20:51] Brenna: it. It’s so cool. Like I teach clients that, I teach my kids that. 

[00:20:53] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:20:54] Brenna: You know, my kids hear about the tone scale all the time. I get them through communication courses, you know, it’s, yeah. But I get my [00:21:00] clients through communication courses. 

[00:21:01] Aaron: That’s right. That’s right. That’s amazing.

[00:21:02] Aaron: Now I just wanna say anybody, the emotional tone scale. I believe there is a link, uh, for it. I’ll, I’ll put the link in the description so you guys can check it out. Yeah. Emotional tone scale. Amazing. 

[00:21:10] Brad: Highly useful. 

[00:21:12] Aaron: Yeah. 

[00:21:12] You 

[00:21:12] Brenna: use for anything 

[00:21:13] Brad: caught? 

[00:21:13] Aaron: Yep. 

[00:21:14] Brenna: Yeah, it’s for sales. You could use the motion tone scale, match a person on the tone scale, get them to raise a little bit, you know, you can be able to communicate properly with them.

[00:21:22] Aaron: Oh, sorry. And in fact, there, I’ll put a link too for the course. There’s a course called The Emotional Tone Scale. Um. I don’t know if I know the link. I don’t know how lemme talk about the link, but it’s, it’s www scientology org slash I think it’s tone scale. Check it out. We are 

[00:21:34] Brenna: the Grant Cardone seminar.

[00:21:35] Brenna: He was the one I it was the right link grant. 

[00:21:37] Aaron: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s true. That’s true. Yeah. I got that link. I, I said it and it sent him on Instagram too, and it was fine. So here’s the thing, um, check out that course. Guys. This is a tool whether you’re gonna be a Scientologist or not be a Scientologist.

[00:21:49] Aaron: Like this is a tool. Yeah. It doesn’t matter. Okay. Yeah. So, okay. Sorry. Continue. 

[00:21:52] Brenna: Yeah, and, and the thing is like, all this stuff is so applicable. I mean, if you could teach a kid, they haven’t really, you know, they learn it in life. [00:22:00] You teach business people, you teach an employee of some. Okay, so what does an employee usually run into when they’re not, maybe they haven’t worked a ton or they haven’t had a ton of success, particularly they have a lot of confidence, right?

[00:22:11] Brenna: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Lots of losses. And one thing I go over on the tone scale, so I do a whole seminar on the tone scale. You know, at the bottom of the tone scale is the accumulation of losses. 

[00:22:19] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:22:19] Brenna: Right? 

[00:22:20] Brad: That’s right. 

[00:22:20] Brenna: Someone’s crying, they probably just lost something. 

[00:22:22] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:22:23] Brenna: If someone is an apathy, they’ve lost over and over lower, right?

[00:22:26] Brenna: Mm-hmm. Over and over apathetic. Right. As they go up the tone scale, they’ve had win. 

[00:22:31] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:22:31] Brenna: And they’ve had accomplishments, you know, if someone like, maybe the loss isn’t gonna happen and they start going a little higher tone. Yeah. But you know, if they get into like antagonism, they’re fighting against a potential loss.

[00:22:41] Brenna: Mm-hmm. Like, you’re gonna steal my toy, like, I don’t wanna lose, or you know, I don’t wanna lose this money. You know, like a, an angry patient like, you screwed up my insurance billing. Mm-hmm. You know, it’s like they’re scared of losing money. 

[00:22:51] Mm-hmm. 

[00:22:52] Brenna: Even someone like as higher tone you get, like when you have full freedom at the top of the tone scale where your serenity of beingness or even lower of just [00:23:00] enthusiasm.

[00:23:00] Brenna: Mm-hmm. Which is huge. Mm-hmm. 

[00:23:01] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:23:01] Brenna: That’s like you’re don’t have any losses in the foreseeable future. You’re, you’re happy right now. 

[00:23:06] Aaron: You can deal with anything. 

[00:23:07] Brenna: You can deal with it. But conservatism a little cautious about loss. Yeah. Like, could I have a loss? And that’s not low tone. And so I talk with my clients.

[00:23:15] Brenna: I mean, at least stay above antagonism. 

[00:23:17] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:23:17] Brenna: Even if you’re antagonistic or you have someone’s, I mean, that is the benchmark of uptown or downtown. Mm-hmm. Antagonism, right. So that’s so useful in life because if someone who’s an employee or someone who’s an owner of a business or a mom. If you’re starting to feel down tone, get something done.

[00:23:34] Brad: Mm. Get a 

[00:23:34] Brenna: win. Get a win. That’s 

[00:23:35] Brad: right. 

[00:23:36] Brenna: Literally like, I’m like, I, how 

[00:23:37] Brad: about a baby? 

[00:23:38] Brenna: Right. How about baby? You know, like, you wanna do that? Just have another kid. 

[00:23:45] Brad: Oh my 

[00:23:45] Brenna: God. That’s the win of Alexa. 

[00:23:46] Brad: This is, that’s gonna be like the advice I can do. 

[00:23:49] Brenna: Yeah. 

[00:23:50] Aaron: I mean, I’m only half joking, but 

[00:23:51] Brenna: No, I mean, that’s a huge win, right?

[00:23:53] Brenna: Well exactly. Bring you up, tone you up, 

[00:23:54] Brad: create 

[00:23:54] Brenna: life. Another thing to bring you up, tone is create a lot of action. 

[00:23:58] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:23:58] Brenna: I mean, I don’t [00:24:00] have time to be downtown. Yep. Yeah. Like, I literally cannot get so true. I, if I have a bad day at work, which doesn’t happen often, but you know, happens sometimes. But then at the end, like I’m presented with four little people.

[00:24:11] Brenna: I mean, I have a 5-year-old, a 7-year-old, a 9-year-old, and a 10-year-old. 

[00:24:14] Old. Mm-hmm. 

[00:24:15] Brenna: And they all have huge being lives. Big emotions. Yeah. Uh, so much energy. I don’t know how it never stops. You know, I never have the cute little play with dolls in the corner type of little girl thing, boys. I mean, the quietest they get is when they’re actively doing a Lego, but then, then it becomes a, you know mm-hmm.

[00:24:37] Brenna: Playing with the Legos anyways. But, um, anyways, what I’m saying is like, you get something done. Yeah. So find something to get done today. Make a battle plan. Accomplish something you’ll find yourself go uptone. And when I get home, like I can’t even be downtown. Yeah, yeah. Like I have to be present. Mm-hmm.

[00:24:50] Brenna: And it doesn’t feel like a chore. It doesn’t feel like, which sometimes I thought that was gonna be like, oh, I never get a rest. 

[00:24:56] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:24:56] Brenna: You know? But how cool is it to always be forced to be up? 

[00:24:59] Brad: [00:25:00] Yeah, that’s true. It’s pretty awesome. 

[00:25:01] Aaron: Yeah. It like, I know like, uh, even my, my 1-year-old, one and a half year old now, like if, I don’t know if I, I’m sitting down, he is like, no, come up.

[00:25:08] Aaron: He like, pick me up and like, come on. Like, they wanna pull you up. Mm-hmm. So you gotta be moving. Yeah. And it is that bad. That’s 

[00:25:15] Brenna: not bad. 

[00:25:15] Aaron: It’s not bad. That’s not bad. That’s, 

[00:25:16] Brenna: that’s, I mean, yeah. Of keep, keep your emotion. Course. Sometimes you need to like, have a little bit of rest sometimes, but still, you know, like when, when it gets a little rough with the kids or something a little overwhelming and then they give you the biggest hug and kiss and Mommy, I just wanna, I want you, I’m like, okay.

[00:25:31] Brenna: I love you too. You know? It’s adorable. I love being a mother, honestly. It’s my favorite thing and it’s like, how can we make more sane mothers? 

[00:25:38] Aaron: Yes. 

[00:25:38] Brenna: You know? Mm-hmm. How can we create a society where there’s like more sanity in the environment and more, you know, sane families. And I think if everybody just learned the tone scale, I’ve actually helped a lot of personal families of my clients.

[00:25:50] Brenna: I Amen. Just being like, Hey, just use this. Here’s a tool that could help you at home a little bit. And I’ve had people come back to me like, oh my God, this is amazing. 

[00:25:57] Mm-hmm. Yeah. 

[00:25:58] Brenna: Or like, study technology. [00:26:00] We teach our clients that and they just learn the basics of how to study. And I was like, oh yeah, my son, he is doing really hard by the school.

[00:26:07] Brenna: I’m like, take this book and go talk to him about it. 

[00:26:09] Mm-hmm. 

[00:26:10] Brenna: Read this chapter to ’em. I bet I would turn around and, and I’ve had people go like, whoa, that totally worked. That was amazing. Wow. And it’s just like a little piece of help, you know? 

[00:26:18] Brad: Yep. 

[00:26:19] Brenna: And it’s, it’s so satisfying to me every day. That’s what I do.

[00:26:23] Brad: Wow. So good. That’s amazing. 

[00:26:24] Brenna: Like, literally, that’s my product, that’s, I get to help people all day. How cool is that? That’s incredible. I have the same things that every business has, you know, competitors or promotion that we have to overcome or counter intention that comes from whatever, you know, every, everybody has that feel.

[00:26:37] Mm-hmm. 

[00:26:38] Brenna: And, you know, we might have, because we’re, so this is what I believe is what El Ron Hybrid talks about, flourish and prosper. 

[00:26:44] Mm-hmm. Yeah. 

[00:26:45] Brenna: The more sane you are, the more pushback you’ll get. 

[00:26:47] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:26:48] Yeah. 

[00:26:48] Brenna: Right? And so you just keep pushing and you keep flourishing and prospering. So. 

[00:26:52] Aaron: Absolutely. 

[00:26:52] Brenna: Yeah.

[00:26:53] Aaron: So, um, I wanna talk about how you got introduced to Scientology. Mm-hmm. Or how did you start and [00:27:00] learn about Scientology? Owen Hubbard, the tools 

[00:27:03] Brenna: great. So, as I’m a second generation, I was super lucky to get introduced at a young age. I think I did my first communication course when I was like eight 

[00:27:12] Brad: mm-hmm.

[00:27:12] Brenna: Years old. 

[00:27:13] Brad: Wow. 

[00:27:13] Brenna: So I started really early. Um, I did it, I twinned with my brother. Who, 

[00:27:18] Brad: what did you, what did you think when you were eight years old and you started your communication course? Like, what, what was, do you, do you recall? Like, what was going through your head at that time? 

[00:27:25] Brenna: Well, first of all, it’s the thing to do because my family was all doing it.

[00:27:28] Brenna: I was all around people all the time that that’s what everyone was doing. And it felt very natural to me. 

[00:27:35] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:27:35] Brenna: I had no objection. And I know my, I have friends that had like a lot of questioning of it, even at that age. Like, this is what I wanna do. You know, I was super go flow, honestly. Mm-hmm. I loved it from the start.

[00:27:47] Brenna: Mm-hmm. Like I had no resistance. I didn’t have to be handled on it in any way, shape, or form. I was like, this is it. I just totally, I recognize the truth. Mm-hmm. Even right away. 

[00:27:56] Wow. 

[00:27:56] Brenna: You know, so my first intro was, 

[00:27:57] Aaron: I just wanna say on the, on the guys, so the [00:28:00] twin, a twin, if you twin with someone, ’cause we just wanna get into, it means basically like it’s your buddy to go do the course together.

[00:28:07] Aaron: Yeah. So when you, you have a buddy, so like in a communication you usually literally practice talking. You can’t talk to the wall. 

[00:28:12] Brenna: Yeah. 

[00:28:13] Aaron: So like, you, you, you talk to a person and they talk back to you and that’s called your twin. So you, you have someone to help you through the whole course anyway. That’s what that means.

[00:28:19] Brenna: Yeah. Beautiful. So my first twin, I partnered up with my brother, who, he got annoyed with me so much ’cause I, you know, he’s three years older than me. So he would read something 10 times faster and he goes, I’ll just explain it to you. Oh my gosh. It was so funny. But he, we got through it. I mean, we got through rigorous drilling at that age.

[00:28:37] Brenna: I mean, I think I did the children’s communication course at eight and then maybe I was like 10. When I did success through communication. 

[00:28:43] Aaron: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

[00:28:44] Brenna: And that was kind of a beefy course for my age, I felt. And so 

[00:28:47] Aaron: it’s still, I mean, I did it again recently. 

[00:28:49] Brenna: I did 

[00:28:49] Aaron: too. Yeah. There is the, it’s like, it is, it’s work.

[00:28:54] Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. Because you gotta practice, you gotta get better. You know what I mean? It’s, it’s interesting ’cause. You know, it’s funny, you use the word rigorous, right? Rigorous [00:29:00] is what it means that you’re gonna go through it. Yep. And you might not get it right the first time. Right. And then you gotta do it better.

[00:29:05] Aaron: Mm-hmm. But like, look at any person who has success in anything. A great soccer player, a great baseball player, a great singer. Right. You have to do it wrong. It’s gonna be rigorous. You are gonna go through mm-hmm. A time when you did it wrong and you have to improve. Yeah. And you’re gonna be like, that’s not the way you swing the bat.

[00:29:19] Aaron: You do it this way. Well, it’s that if, if everybody communicated perfectly from the beginning, you would not need a course. There would be no course you would have peace on earth. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. Like, you’re all good. So guess what? You, you wouldn’t need salespeople. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Correct. And like, like, like you, so, so it’s so true.

[00:29:33] Aaron: You know, that’s what training is. You have to learn to do it a different way. Mm-hmm. And, and try it. If you like that way, then you use that way. And if you don’t like that way, you don’t find it’s true for you, then. Do what you were doing before, but like try and see if this way works. Right? I mean, that’s 

[00:29:49] Brenna: totally 100% if you’re gonna do it, do it a hundred percent.

[00:29:52] Aaron: Yeah. 

[00:29:52] Brenna: And that’s again, that’s, I learned that, right? So I did the successful communication course, that was amazing. And then I just started going, [00:30:00] um, you know, through different courses. What really changed my life is as when I was, I think I started really early at Flagg. 

[00:30:06] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

[00:30:07] Brenna: At the Scientology organization at Flagg.

[00:30:09] Brenna: And that was, I think I did my first course was Method one co audit, which is a word clearing 

[00:30:16] mm-hmm. 

[00:30:16] Brenna: Where you actually process somebody and they process you, you twin up, partner up again. Mm-hmm. And I was 13 when I did that course. 

[00:30:24] Brad: Wow. 

[00:30:25] Aaron: What? 

[00:30:25] Brenna: Yes. And Oh, okay. So right before that, actually I did another one where I audited another person.

[00:30:30] Brenna: It was like the survival rundown. 

[00:30:32] Aaron: Okay. Okay. 

[00:30:32] Brenna: So that was huge. I did that. No, I did that when, when I was 13 and I did met and woman when I was 14. So these are like, I was so lucky. That I learned this at this age because I, I don’t, it, it’s amazing what you learn that you can confront and that you can do, if you can help somebody else with spiritual awareness and you can help somebody push through barriers that they have going against themselves mm-hmm.

[00:30:56] Brenna: It changes your life. Yep. I mean, not only the win, I feel like I always had [00:31:00] wins more helping another person than myself. Not that I didn’t have huge wins, but it was like, wow, like this is so powerful. 

[00:31:05] Aaron: Mm. 

[00:31:06] Brenna: So I got through that when I was 13. I twinned with uh, uh, Jen Balinski. 

[00:31:10] Aaron: Oh, wow. Okay. 

[00:31:11] Brenna: Yeah. When we were 13, we went through it for like months and months and months and months and months.

[00:31:14] Brenna: It was great. So, um, anyway, so we did that and then I did the method one, uh, course, which is a word clearing. So as a child, as a 13 year, 14-year-old, I cleared all words I’ve ever heard that I didn’t understand. 

[00:31:27] Brad: Wow. Wow. 

[00:31:28] Brenna: It’s so huge. Like I went through and I, at the time I was a dancer. 

[00:31:31] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:31:32] Brenna: So I was going to dance class all the time and I didn’t know anything that I was hearing.

[00:31:36] Brad: Wow. Ah, 

[00:31:37] Brenna: like there’s so many different ballet terms and jazz terms and different things that you’re told all the time. Staccato 

[00:31:43] Brad: agio. 

[00:31:43] Brenna: Yeah. It’s like, there’s so many things that you learn. That’s 

[00:31:46] Brad: what I think of 

[00:31:46] Brenna: different positions. And I didn’t know where they, why it was that way, where they came from the definitions of these.

[00:31:52] Brenna: And it blew my mind that they had like the definition of the word actually explain the position. Oh. Like, it made [00:32:00] sense. Like now, you know, sometimes like I would go outta position when I’m not supposed to in class and I’d be like, oh. ’cause I really didn’t understand. Wow. I didn’t understand what it meant, 

[00:32:08] Aaron: geez.

[00:32:09] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:32:09] Brenna: And then there was stuff with history that I learned that I didn’t totally get. I mean, I, I was always, you know, it was amazing like that, that my parents helped me to get that at a young age. Like I did it over like a summer, every summer I was doing tons of stuff. 

[00:32:22] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:32:23] Brenna: So then I did, and 

[00:32:23] Aaron: I have to say too, that’s.

[00:32:25] Aaron: You already were like, you knew about the dictionary, you would clear words, meaning you already had a good amount of study technology in your life, I’m assuming. Right? So, so you’ve already used the dictionary, you’re already checking words. Mm-hmm. But even with that, now this guys, if you, uh, I’ll put a link to the bridge.

[00:32:41] Aaron: I have the bridge, but the, um, method one work during is actually one of the very first steps mm-hmm. On the left side of the bridge. Yeah. And so you can see it there. It’s there. The name is there. Hopefully I’ll have a picture there. And, uh, it’s like you already knew, like, you’re already ahead of a lot of people, right?

[00:32:55] Aaron: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I remember right before Scientology, when I was in school, I, [00:33:00] I, sorry. I remember I started Scientology probably like 13, 14 years old. 

[00:33:04] Mm-hmm. 

[00:33:05] Aaron: And like, I remember going to school and I asked my English teacher, I’m like, can I have a dictionary? ’cause I want this. I’ll be like, we don’t have dictionaries.

[00:33:13] Wow. 

[00:33:13] Aaron: And I’m like, well, how are we supposed to know the stuff? She’s like, no, you just, you could kind of figure it out. That was actually her, those English teacher in middle school, right? Mm. Like, like, it’s quite like. Wow. Right. So anyway, you didn’t have that scenario, so you are already doing that. And then on top of that, this is finding out, it’s just another step deeper.

[00:33:32] Aaron: So I don’t say that’s like kind of cool. Yeah. It’s super, but even for someone who’s like, they’ve never even used the dictionary ’cause that 

[00:33:37] Brenna: Yeah. 

[00:33:37] Aaron: I mean maybe not never, but No, 

[00:33:38] Brenna: almost never. I mean, that’s the first step to learn the basics of study. 

[00:33:41] Aaron: Yep. 

[00:33:41] Brenna: And, but as a child, like that was how I was able to become productive quickly.

[00:33:47] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:33:47] Brenna: In life. Mm-hmm. Is learning how to learn. 

[00:33:48] Brad: Yep. Yeah. 

[00:33:49] Brenna: I mean, I did a lot of study, like children’s study courses before I got to that point. Mm-hmm. Like, I did a course called Learning How to Learn. Yep. I did a course called How to Use Dictionary. I remember one time I was memorizing the alphabet backwards [00:34:00] on my way back from the airport.

[00:34:01] Brenna: I just love, I just, I was absorbing it from, you know, I forgot the pur, I did the pur one. I was like nine. I think. 

[00:34:07] Aaron: Wow. 

[00:34:08] Brenna: So I started everything early. I was so lucky that it, I didn’t, no one forced me either. My parents didn’t force me to do anything. Mm-hmm. I just was like, I want this. Yeah, I want this, I want this.

[00:34:17] Brenna: You know? 

[00:34:18] Brad: Wow. 

[00:34:18] Brenna: And then I just absorbed it a lot. And so I did that and then I did the student hat, which is a very deep understanding of study technology. And I was 14 then, so I finished both when I was like between 13 and 14. 

[00:34:29] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:34:30] Brenna: Mm-hmm. All this happened in a short period of time that changed my life.

[00:34:33] Brenna: Yeah. I mean, like, you know, I started to volunteer at the church when I just turned 15. 

[00:34:39] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:34:40] Brenna: And I full on. Full-time mm-hmm. Was doing that. And it’s because I had so many mind blowing wins as a 15-year-old mm-hmm. As a 14-year-old, like I, I’ve, I see 15 year olds now. I’m like, I, I was so, I mean, I’m like, 

[00:34:55] Brad: yeah.

[00:34:55] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:34:56] Brenna: I was at a total different space in my life. Yeah. Yeah. This person, you know, I mean, I’m sure there’s [00:35:00] lots that are like that. I just was like, yeah. I was at, I mean, I think because I had so many realizations and I had so many wins and I felt responsible mm-hmm. Like, I had to do something about it, like I wanted other people to get this.

[00:35:11] Brenna: Mm-hmm. And that never stopped, you know, like, like now clearly I wanna disseminate all the time. I wanna help people, and they don’t have to become a Scientologist, they don’t have to use everything. Just like do something that will help better yourself, you know? Mm-hmm. 

[00:35:22] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:35:22] Brenna: But then I did that, and then, yeah, I volunteered for a long time and because of all of that, like I started.

[00:35:29] Brenna: A super high confront 15-year-old who could learn anything. 

[00:35:34] Mm-hmm. 

[00:35:34] Brenna: That’s rare I think. 

[00:35:36] Yeah. Extremely. 

[00:35:36] Brenna: I mean, someone who could literally, like my aptitude was out the roof because of all of this processing and training that I got. Mm-hmm. Already before I even volunteered that I became an executive at 16.

[00:35:47] Aaron: Wow. 

[00:35:47] Brenna: I was running a ton of people mm-hmm. When I was 16 years old mm-hmm. Running circles around the fogies. You know what? The fogey old people. Oh. Um, at that time that’s, I was like, that’s old person term though. 

[00:35:58] Aaron: It’s, they flip it. No, I’m 

[00:35:59] Brenna: speaking. Yeah. [00:36:00] Yeah. I’m sure there’s some new term. Um, but you know, like to me, I was really, I didn’t think anything different.

[00:36:06] Brenna: ’cause this is who I am. Yeah. And again, I would just be like, and there’s things that scared the crap outta me. 

[00:36:11] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:36:11] Brenna: And I just, I would be like, I need to do that because that’s scary. 

[00:36:16] Brad: Oh wow. 

[00:36:16] Brenna: That just became my mantra. It’s like, that’s so hard. That’s so scary. This really important person just asked me to do something that’s, I think impossible.

[00:36:25] Brenna: I’m doing that because look, I mean, what’s good work’s gonna happen. I don’t do it Right. You know? But then I went and I learned, and I learned, and that’s where then when I was volunteering, I learned tons of management training. Mm-hmm. So I learned how to be really able to run a business, run any organization to sell anything to anybody.

[00:36:44] Brenna: The tools I learned in, in that time period in my life, irreplaceable. Mm-hmm. Like, changed my life. Like really made me, so I could be a great mother, I could be present with people, I could have, you know, a great family. I could have a great business and I could have multiple businesses. I could do d you know, I’ve done different things [00:37:00] and have different hats.

[00:37:00] Brenna: But, um, you know, I, but yeah, I was able to be an executive at 16 and I just kept going up and up. And then I became, I was a fundraiser for a long time, which that was a really high responsibility, high pressure. 

[00:37:12] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:37:12] Brenna: Uh, job at the time, you know, and it was amazing. So it was all because I really learned how to confront and I, I learned to have a high ethics level that.

[00:37:21] Brenna: That was huge. Moral codes responsibility. Yeah. And if we can instill that in the younger population, they’re, you know, they, they can’t go wrong. 

[00:37:30] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:37:30] Aaron: Okay. I’m gonna talk about a, I’m gonna talk about a topic that I, IIF first I’m gonna talk about just my experience because I’ve never, we haven’t talked about this before.

[00:37:38] Aaron: Okay. But it’s, it’s so, it’s so, I just feel like it’s so relevant. ’cause I was talking to a buddy of mine. Yeah. Okay. Let me just, lemme talk about, about a buddy of mine. He probably will never listen to this, but I won’t say his name. So he’s been in a relationship for, I don’t know, let’s say seven years.

[00:37:51] Aaron: Mm-hmm. Okay. And, uh, I think they’re living together. Wait, is this 

[00:37:54] about me? I’m just kidding. 

[00:37:57] Aaron: He’s in a relationship. Uh, him and his girlfriend, they’ve been together for [00:38:00] seven years. Yeah. Uh, I think they live together and like, they’re not married. And like, she has her business. He has his business, his business is much bigger.

[00:38:08] Aaron: And I go like, why don’t you get married? You know what I mean? Like what? Like why don’t you guys, like, why don’t you guys like, oh no. Be, he didn’t really gimme a ride or any answer at all. Yeah. And I’m like. Why, like he, he said like, I want her to have her job. I’m like, well, why would you wanna have her job?

[00:38:25] Aaron: Like, because if you leave her, she’s still good, right? And he’s like, no, it’s not that. I’m like, well dude, where’s your commitment, dude? Like, are you gonna have babies or not have babies? Are you, do you wanna work in your business or not? Like, are you in, are you not in right? He’s like, I’m mean. I’m like, good.

[00:38:36] Aaron: So are you gonna get married or not? They’re like, well, so here’s, here’s the topic. I just wanna open that. ’cause that had me, I was thinking about this the last three days. 

[00:38:43] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:38:46] Aaron: When you work. At the church, right? Mm-hmm. Like, like we did. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. In order to have sexual relations 

[00:38:54] mm-hmm. 

[00:38:55] Brad: You need to be married.

[00:38:56] Yes. 

[00:38:56] Aaron: Yes. Okay. Now, that of course is, let’s say, that’s part of [00:39:00] a lot of religions does not 

[00:39:01] Brad: apply to apply to public. 

[00:39:03] It’s only 

[00:39:03] Aaron: who full time. It’s only, it’s only people who work at, at the staff and actually certain type staff live at the church. Yeah. Yeah. It’s not just even work at the church. So 

[00:39:10] Brenna: it’s a certain type of 

[00:39:11] Aaron: listen.

[00:39:12] Aaron: I mean, like most religions have that as like, you should do that. Yep. Mm-hmm. Right. That is, it’s, it’s a good practice in life and I didn’t know how important, which, I thought it was ridiculous. I thought it was so ridiculous. I thought like not having sex before marriage was the most crazy, ridiculous, terrible idea in the world.

[00:39:27] Aaron: Until then. I, I, I, I practiced it. I was kind of, in a way forced, like this is, I, for me to be able to be at the church volunteering in like that highest level, you have to practice that. That is, it’s not an optional. I mean, if, if you’re, if you do that, you, you get kicked out, you will not be part of that group anymore.

[00:39:45] Yeah. 

[00:39:45] Aaron: So. For you. Right. You are now working at the church, um, you’re living there. Mm-hmm. 16 years old. Mm-hmm. Um, no sex before marriage. Mm-hmm. How do you think that, uh, impacted [00:40:00] you? 

[00:40:00] Brad: No, this is, 

[00:40:01] Aaron: I dunno what this is like, this is great. I just have to say like, ’cause I, I realize without this we’ve never talked.

[00:40:06] Aaron: Like, I truly believe, like if everybody in the world had to be mar married before having sex, I think we would have a totally different world. Oh, for sure. And so like yeah. So dramatic and so like, obviously I, anyway, so, I don’t know. Just go ahead. 

[00:40:20] Brenna: I think it’s, uh, it put priorities and building relationships first with somebody.

[00:40:25] Brenna: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I mean, you really committed before, you know, you go for it and you know, and just like before you get married mm-hmm. You actually build a relationship. But I just think in general, all the. I had friends that never were on, on staff or had done like my upper level staff mm-hmm. Which is what we did.

[00:40:41] Brenna: It’s only a requirement for that, obviously. Mm-hmm. Um, and I had friends that were not part of that at all, and they had really crazy stories. Mm-hmm. Really downward spiral in parts of their life. Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm. Because of mm-hmm. Group agreement out there of things to try drugs, uh, unusual sexual activities, you know, [00:41:00] all these kind of lower moral code type of activities.

[00:41:02] Brenna: Mm-hmm. 

[00:41:03] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:41:03] Brenna: That was so not part of my life. 

[00:41:04] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:41:05] Brenna: I worked, I helped people, I made long lasting friendships, like, you know, we’ve known each other forever. 

[00:41:13] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:41:13] Brenna: Um, and I had a great relationship and I’ve been married 17 years now. Yeah. So that’s a long time. 

[00:41:23] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:41:24] Brenna: So, and you know, we, I’d known him for a long time before we got together.

[00:41:30] Brenna: Mm-hmm. And decided to get married by the time we decided to get married. And then we got married, was pretty short time. But you know, things are fast in that point. You don’t have a lot of time to do, you know, like you just do what you’re doing. Right. But I think it impacted me because I didn’t have these outside influences that kids have right now.

[00:41:45] Brad: Mm-hmm. Yeah. 

[00:41:45] Brenna: It’s like, I mean, I, you know, we were in the steward org or we were in Yeah, yeah, that’s fine. Our church, you know, when, um, at the beginning, internet wasn’t a thing really? Mm-hmm. You know, like that, I don’t even know. It wasn’t really a thing. We didn’t get cell phones until [00:42:00] halfway through, you know, at some point that I having, I remember at home having like a phone in your car.

[00:42:06] Brenna: Like a car phone was like, he’s rich and like, you have a phone, your house, you know? And then someone had a cell phone that was like next level and not, it wasn’t even that. It was like beepers and then cellphone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beepers. So like the evolution of all that. But I’m just saying now our kids with this, you know, like a teenager with a touch of a button has access to the grossest stuff on the internet.

[00:42:26] Brenna: Mm-hmm. Or just even what’s considered like. Middle class behavior, like the general group agreement behavior mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Of what someone should do. And this is the hardest thing that even employers have today. Mm. Interesting. A generation, you’re right. Gets pushed. Yep. I mean, you hire a lot of people, you hire people, right?

[00:42:43] Aaron: Yeah. 

[00:42:44] Brenna: So it’s like you, there’s, there’s a type of a Gen Z 

[00:42:48] Aaron: mm-hmm. 

[00:42:48] Brenna: That grew up 100% on the internet, and they get told that. I mean, whether or not they believe it all. ’cause some people are very hardworking. I’m not saying it’s everybody, but they get told they are owed everything. 

[00:42:59] Brad: Mm-hmm. [00:43:00] 

[00:43:00] Brenna: That it’s okay to be odd on a sexual behavior scale.

[00:43:04] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:43:04] Brenna: Like nothing is, is gone, is wrong. Mm-hmm. You know, like whatever you do, there’s no, uh, checkpoints that you need to have. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I’m not even saying like, different people’s viewpoints on if you’re gay or not. Gay is not even the point. It’s like, there’s just like no moral on. That’s what just pushed the number of 

[00:43:21] Aaron: partners, 

[00:43:22] Brenna: number of day.

[00:43:22] Brenna: Like, uh, whatever. It’s like I, it’s just pushed a lot. Mm-hmm. I’m not saying everybody believes it, but it is pushed as like Absolutely. Go get drunk every night. Go have parties. You know, like the people that are influencers, what are they doing? They’re getting ready with me to go get drunk. Yep. That’s the thing that they’re doing all the time.

[00:43:37] Brenna: That’s true. Mm-hmm. Like, let’s do a get ready with me and look at my makeup and my cute little outfit. You can see my butt. You know, and I’m not saying no one can ever do stuff like that, but it’s so pushed as like, that’s the ideal scene. 

[00:43:47] Brad: Mm-hmm. Yeah. 

[00:43:48] Brenna: And then they get pushed that things are owed to us, that, you know, um, you’re, you’re harming.

[00:43:53] Brenna: I need personal space. I need this and I need that. And I, I’m not saying people don’t have emotions, but like, [00:44:00] I did not get to where I am. And I tell people this all the time. We need to like change the society one person at a time. Yep. And educate younger people and people who have this viewpoint that you will not own your own business ever or be really successful with that viewpoint.

[00:44:14] Brad: Hell no. 

[00:44:14] Brenna: You will never, I’m, you can always be an employee. Probably find a job somewhere. And I’m not saying that aren’t 

[00:44:19] Brad: people like a crappy, crappy job. 

[00:44:20] Brenna: Yes. Or someplace that has a terrible a, a, a company that doesn’t monitor production at all. Yeah. And they’re really just like Yeah. 

[00:44:28] Brad: A 

[00:44:28] Brenna: cover for something else.

[00:44:29] Yes. 

[00:44:29] Brenna: You know what I mean? 

[00:44:30] Brad: Yeah. It’s actually a criminal organization doing something else and you’re working there. 

[00:44:32] Brenna: Yeah. A front. Mm-hmm. You’re just, and no one’s like pushing, you know? 

[00:44:35] And 

[00:44:35] Brad: how terrible would that be? Like No. Like you would know as the point, you know, 

[00:44:38] Brenna: you would know like, wow, no one’s even checking on me.

[00:44:40] Brenna: I work from home all day and I don’t have to work. 

[00:44:42] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:44:42] Brenna: I’ve seen people promote that as like, so Cool. I work an hour a day and I just do a meeting. Yeah. And I actually, you know, don’t do anything and I’m just hanging out. 

[00:44:50] Aaron: And how Yeah, like how basically I used to believe, I used to, but my screen name, like my username in middle school was Lazy Aaron.

[00:44:58] Aaron: Okay. Lazy Aaron, 23. Okay. [00:45:00] And then after that I, I got rid of that one. I became procrastinator. Okay. Like, no, literally that, that was, hold on. So yeah, procrastinator. Yeah. Yeah. So, so I just wanna say like, I totally fell for it. 

[00:45:10] Yeah. 

[00:45:10] Aaron: I fell for that idea that like doing nothing was the ideal state and that was the best thing.

[00:45:16] Aaron: This was before, I mean, maybe I, once I was started kind of Scientology, I kind of got an idea and slow. It took me a few years to kind of. Believe, like, dude, it’s fun to work. Yeah. 

[00:45:26] Brenna: Yeah. 

[00:45:27] Aaron: It’s actually good to have a life that’s worth something. Yeah. And not to be a rotting thing that you could be on the TV 20 hours a day.

[00:45:34] Aaron: Yeah. Right. 

[00:45:35] Brenna: Production is the basis of morale. 

[00:45:37] Yep. 

[00:45:37] Aaron: A hundred percent. Right. And, and I just, I fell for, I just wanna say I am a victim. Okay. 

[00:45:43] Brenna: I’m a 

[00:45:43] Aaron: victim. I fell for it. I literally, like, literally, those are my usernames. Like look it up. I, I think I still have like my, my like live journal, you know, like Lazy Aaron 23.

[00:45:51] Aaron: I have my, my A A IM. He’s a victim of 

[00:45:53] Brad: laziness. 

[00:45:54] Yeah. 

[00:45:54] Aaron: Yeah. So 

[00:45:55] Brenna: it gets pushed so much 

[00:45:56] Aaron: at some point. You feel like that was my pride back [00:46:00] then. Like I don’t have to do anything. Yes. Yeah. And, and that’s like you’re saying, it’s like, oh, there was that one thing, I don’t know on x when like the, the, the head of the head of, uh, Twitter coding was like, yeah, we work like one hour a day.

[00:46:12] Brenna: Yeah, exactly. I was talking about that 

[00:46:13] Aaron: day, that thing. 

[00:46:14] Brenna: Yeah. 

[00:46:14] Aaron: And it’s like, how can someone be proud of that? Yeah. How did we get to a place? Where that is something you’re proud of. I 

[00:46:21] Brad: know. I was there. 

[00:46:22] Aaron: So it’s like I’m asking the questions like, okay. I, I don’t know how I got there, dude, but I did 

[00:46:26] Brenna: like, when you get away with something for a long time, you’re gonna start accumulating, feeling 

[00:46:30] Brad: Yeah.

[00:46:31] Brenna: Out ethics. Mm-hmm. Like wrong, right? Mm-hmm. And eventually it’s gonna come back at you and you’re gonna not, you know, it’s not gonna turn out. And then 

[00:46:36] Brad: you’re gonna get really mad. 

[00:46:37] Brenna: Yeah, exactly. 

[00:46:38] Brad: When it hits you in the face. 

[00:46:39] Brenna: Yeah. And then you’re like, oh no. And then get mad. You mad at you. I got fired. 

[00:46:42] Brad: Yeah.

[00:46:43] Brenna: From the job. I worked one hour a day, you know, laid us off and then they start protesting. They laid us off. I can’t believe those, the big man, you know? Yeah. Yuan. I thought it was crazy. Like, you know, they’re saying how, um, you know, when they’re asking everyone in the government [00:47:00] to just say what you did.

[00:47:01] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:47:02] Brenna: Right? 

[00:47:02] Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. People were like, how dare you? Right? How dare you 

[00:47:04] Brenna: make me tell you what I do all day? 

[00:47:06] Aaron: What do mean? You’re on the payroll of my rights? 

[00:47:09] Brenna: I’m like, what? I own a business. I ask people that every day. Right. I mean, that’s. That’s a mandatory thing. 

[00:47:15] Brad: Actually, that’s a great point. One of the biggest things I’ve learned from, uh, like a very experienced Scientologist that who worked with me for a while was the value and the magic of a daily report.

[00:47:26] Brenna: Yeah. 

[00:47:26] Brad: From your junior. Like that’s how you run a business from afar. 

[00:47:28] Brenna: Yeah. 

[00:47:29] Brad: Daily reports. 

[00:47:29] Brenna: Yeah. Hundred percent. 

[00:47:30] Brad: Like that piece of technology alone. Mm-hmm. The daily report mm-hmm. Is like worth its weight in gold. 

[00:47:36] Brenna: Yeah. ’cause then they have to say something. 

[00:47:37] Brad: Yes. 

[00:47:38] Brenna: It’s like, 

[00:47:38] Aaron: but but, but that’s, but that’s what they checked in the government.

[00:47:41] Aaron: No, it was not the thing. Like part of a, what was it? Doge? No, it was 

[00:47:43] Brenna: weekly. Yeah, 

[00:47:44] Aaron: it was weekly. Weekly. Weekly. 

[00:47:45] Brad: It was week. What, 

[00:47:46] Brenna: what three things would you done? Three weeks. Do you do? It was literally so basic and they were all protesting how crazy and evil was. 

[00:47:52] Okay. 

[00:47:52] Aaron: So guys in, in the audience, who do you think would protest a report that says what you get done in one week?

[00:47:58] Aaron: Yeah. Okay. Who’s gonna, who would protest that? [00:48:00] Who’s 

[00:48:00] Brenna: gonna be upset? 

[00:48:00] Aaron: Nothing. A guy who’s like helping to like, make the government strong and good and help you with your life and get your permits approved and like, make you pay less taxes and like, help the person 

[00:48:09] Brad: don’t bring up permits. 

[00:48:10] Aaron: Okay. So I’m sorry.

[00:48:11] Aaron: You see? I know, right? Okay. 

[00:48:13] Brad: Damnit. 

[00:48:13] Aaron: Or a person who is literally like running a Somali daycare, like who, who is going to an example, who is going to protest? You know? So just take that, take that, uh, um, if you want put, put in the comments. Say like, who’s gonna protest getting a report? All discovery 

[00:48:28] Brad: worker, Somali daycare.

[00:48:29] Aaron: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like who’s gonna, okay. 

[00:48:31] Brenna: Yeah. I mean, the thing is, is like, I, I help, you know, our clients are trying to hire a front desk person. Yeah. You know, that’s gonna be a, you know, 20 something usually person. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And they wanna get someone who’s gonna be able to grow in the company. They’re willing to invest.

[00:48:44] Brenna: I mean, our clients pay to train their staff. Yep. That’s an investment. Any, any business owner is gonna invest in a new person. 

[00:48:51] Absolutely. 

[00:48:51] Brenna: And so they’re gonna, you know, train someone, they expect that person to be willing to be there and to follow the rules of the company. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And to produce, right?

[00:48:58] Brenna: Mm-hmm. And [00:49:00] it’s, you know, when they’re hiring someone, they hear all different kinds of, oh, is this a work from home position? They’re like, it’s literally a front desk. Like, people need to see you, 

[00:49:10] they need to see you 

[00:49:10] Brenna: when they walk in the office, you know? And it’s like, you know, uh, so it’s just the amount of things that people run into in hiring.

[00:49:17] Brenna: I just think there’s so many people out there that are really great that actually want to help. And I’ve, our clients hire people all the time, so I don’t think this is a majority. I just think it gets pushed as a mentality that we need to burn out. That this, the, the on the way to be successful means that you can work from home only.

[00:49:34] Brenna: And meaning, 

[00:49:35] Aaron: meaning not work so much, 

[00:49:36] Brenna: not work so much. 

[00:49:37] Aaron: Yeah. I mean, I, yeah. Okay. Sorry. 

[00:49:38] Brenna: And some people work from home, I’m just saying like. You know, live off of some minor, uh, only online sales that you do one hour work. I mean, I remember when I started trying to do Amazon, right? Yeah. Yeah. So when I was on my Millions child, I, I came to Aaron, I’m like, what can I work on from home?

[00:49:53] Brenna: He was helping me. It was so amazing. And I was like learning how much work it is mm-hmm. To operate an Amazon [00:50:00] business. Yeah. And I started it, and actually we did pretty good. 

[00:50:02] Brad: Aaron and Whitney make it look very easy. 

[00:50:03] Brenna: I mean, it is work and mean. We have a hundred staff like that, you know, but like, he, he blew out the mentalities.

[00:50:08] Brenna: This is like, you can start part-time, but if you wanna be successful, it’s a job. Yeah. It’s like, I’m not saying you have to work a hundred hours a day all the time, but if you want to, it’s just like any business. You, you, whatever you put in is what you get out. 

[00:50:18] Brad: Mm-hmm. Yeah. 

[00:50:19] Brenna: So it’s still, even if you had an online business, it is a full-time job.

[00:50:23] Brenna: Yeah. Until you can phase out and you hire someone to do certain functions. But like any of these things, it’s like this weird idea, like, okay. Alright. There are some people that can be an influencer, literally, practically do nothing but video themselves. Get ready for parties and, 

[00:50:37] Aaron: okay. Okay. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[00:50:39] Aaron: Let me just, let me just touch on that. Right. Okay. I know a few influencers. Okay. Okay. Now there might be some, these influencers, at least the good ones. Yeah. Have like also massive teams. Like that’s also like Right. 

[00:50:51] Brenna: When they get 

[00:50:51] Aaron: that, 

[00:50:51] Brenna: that’s 

[00:50:51] Aaron: also, yeah. There’s also, 

[00:50:52] Brenna: yeah, like 

[00:50:53] Aaron: we work with 

[00:50:54] Brenna: influencers. Mr. B has a huge business.

[00:50:55] Brenna: Right. 

[00:50:55] Aaron: Humongous 

[00:50:56] Brenna: business. 

[00:50:57] Brad: I mean that’s hundreds of, 

[00:50:57] Aaron: no. His budget, his budget for video is [00:51:00] something like each video he’s gonna spend at least $2 million. Yeah. Something like that. He was, he did an episode on a, it was a Joe Rogan. Wow. Yeah. It was in Incre. I, that video inspired me because I go, listen, I doesn’t, there’s not really a business.

[00:51:11] Aaron: Yeah. That is not like you have to strategically make plans. Yeah. And build out whatever. And, and work on it. There’s, it just doesn’t exist. Right. Even influencer. Right. Even if you’re a, a, a like influencer, that’s telling people to do bad things. Okay. Even that they still gotta work at it. 

[00:51:28] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:51:28] Aaron: You know, like, they still gotta work at it.

[00:51:30] Aaron: Like, whether or not it’s a helpful thing or a good thing. Yeah. If you’re not, if you’re not. So I just wanna say like, um, all the influencers out there, thank you for, for getting the guys who do influencing, influencing for good things. 

[00:51:40] Brad: Yeah. Like, I 

[00:51:40] Aaron: appreciate you guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have, we have a lot of guys like Yeah.

[00:51:44] Aaron: Cook at the house. 

[00:51:45] Brad: Yeah. That’s 

[00:51:45] Aaron: great. Okay. Have babies. Okay. Help your baby. Protect your baby. Yes. Good. Strollers. Good. Like all the like true whatever. Good food. Yeah. Okay. Uh, supplements. Yeah. Whatever. Like if you’re selling that stuff on your influencer, that is a, it could be a mega job, it could be losing weight.

[00:51:59] Aaron: I have a, there’s an [00:52:00] influencer local who they just talk about weight loss. Yeah. They make a good living. Right. But that is a job. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it’s like to make a video, one video takes like two, three hours. Yeah. Yeah. To make a 22nd video, you’re like, 

[00:52:12] Brenna: yeah. Editing and everything. And 

[00:52:14] Aaron: lighting. Yeah.

[00:52:14] Aaron: Seeing people just think like, okay, I made the video. So for those 32nd videos, sometimes it could be like three, four hours. 

[00:52:20] Brenna: Wow. 

[00:52:20] Aaron: Yeah. Anyway. 

[00:52:20] Yeah. 

[00:52:21] Brenna: Yeah. So I think anything you do, I think that’s a, it’s the thing that people need to realize. It’s like anything you do, you have to work at it. You have to be willing to work, put in the effort.

[00:52:29] Brenna: Like, I didn’t have a successful company because something got landed to me. Mm-hmm. I mean, I, my dad started this company, I bought him out. Mm-hmm. I never got anything. Mm-hmm. Ever. Mm-hmm. Like I worked my butt off, I learned everything, then I paid for this. Mm-hmm. This was not, 

[00:52:46] yeah. 

[00:52:46] Brenna: You know, I’m not saying it’s not, it’s, it’s bad to give your child a company if they deserve it also.

[00:52:51] Brenna: But I’m just saying it was hard work from this the beginning. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You know, and I’ve expanded it a lot since then. So like any, any successful business owner is gonna say it is [00:53:00] a lot of work on the substeps, the sub products, all the things you have to do to build up every day to create. 

[00:53:05] Brad: Yep. 

[00:53:06] Brenna: So I dunno how we even gone into that topic, but it’s like, neither It’s important.

[00:53:09] Brenna: I think 

[00:53:10] Aaron: I then we start with through commitment. 

[00:53:11] Brenna: Yes. Yeah. Like 

[00:53:12] Aaron: being fully committed. The commitment, you know, I think that’s, it’s really lacking. Yeah. Right. Because if you’re in, and same with the business, right? Talk about all Amazon when you are gonna get into Amazon. 

[00:53:20] Brenna: Yeah. 

[00:53:21] Aaron: If you’re half in, 

[00:53:22] I 

[00:53:22] Brenna: feel so stupid when you told me, ’cause I was gonna do a thermometer 

[00:53:25] Aaron: Yeah.

[00:53:26] Brenna: Right before COVID. 

[00:53:27] Aaron: Yeah. 

[00:53:27] Brenna: And you were like, Brenna, this is a good product. I had all these like things figured out and I was just going back and forth 

[00:53:32] and 

[00:53:32] Aaron: then I said like, order it, right? 

[00:53:33] Brenna: Like order it right now. Yeah. We didn’t, we didn’t know anything about COVID. Correct. This was like in uh, September 

[00:53:37] Brad: thermometers.

[00:53:38] Aaron: Yes. Yes, yes, yes. I’m like, literally the cost from China like tripled then like three months later. 

[00:53:42] Brenna: Yes. So I was like, 

[00:53:44] Aaron: that’s when I tell people 

[00:53:45] orders 

[00:53:45] Brenna: start back to China. Like, you got a good one. You got a good one. Like, ’cause I found it. ’cause I wanted to do baby stuff. I was in the babyland, I was wanted do like baby thermometers or something like that, but they were normal.

[00:53:54] Brenna: Anyone could use them. And so I had this whole branding and everything and then I, I just delayed and I [00:54:00] stupidly waited an extra month and I needed to. And then it, everything in China shut down and I couldn’t order them. I, I put in an order, but it couldn’t happen. And then they were like, I’m calling.

[00:54:10] Brenna: It’s three times more. It’s Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So calling supplier, she’s like, we’re not allowed to work. We’re not like how leads are coming into Yeah. 

[00:54:16] Brad: How to handle work. 

[00:54:17] Brenna: Yes. Do it now. 

[00:54:18] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:54:18] Brenna: Like, that could have been a total different lifestyle for me. I’m a massive, 

[00:54:22] Aaron: like, 

[00:54:23] Brenna: huge, huge. I mean, the amount of money, I mean, it was crazy, but what they were selling thermometers for on Amazon, even at the time, like everything was like triple priced.

[00:54:30] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:54:30] Brenna: Everything was outta stock. I mean, it, it could have been if I had gotten that stock in before all that stuff shut down. 

[00:54:35] Aaron: Yeah. It would’ve been great. And then, but you know, that’s the thing where it’s half commitment, right? You’re like, well, I’m trying this out. They’re like, testing this business, testing this job.

[00:54:44] Aaron: Mm-hmm. Testing this, blah. And it’s like. No commit. 

[00:54:48] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:54:48] Brenna: Yeah. My best employees, like they go all in. 

[00:54:51] Brad: Yep. 

[00:54:51] Brenna: They do. Well, they get bonuses because they produce their butt off, you know, they create their job. And of course, any business owner is gonna wanna invest in those people. 

[00:54:59] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:54:59] Brenna: Because it’s [00:55:00] like, oh, these people are like, have my back.

[00:55:01] Brenna: They wanna help they solve a problem. That’s one thing I like learned. It’s like you hire someone employee to solve a problem. 

[00:55:08] Brad: Yeah, that’s right. 

[00:55:09] Brenna: Like, that’s literally, like, if you can’t, if you’re not solving a problem, like you’re not, you shouldn’t be here. 

[00:55:13] Brad: Mm-hmm. That’s 

[00:55:14] Brenna: right. Solving some problem. Right?

[00:55:15] That’s 

[00:55:15] Brad: right. That’s right. 

[00:55:15] Brenna: And whether it’s like being at the front desk or you’re handling payments, or you’re handling treasury, like you’re solving a problem. If you’re not solving anything, you’re just creating problems. 

[00:55:23] Brad: Yeah. 

[00:55:23] Brenna: That’s not, that’s not exchange, you know? 

[00:55:25] Brad: Yep. For, for business owners who have no idea how to evaluate which of their employees are good employees and which of their employees maybe are not necessarily contributing at the, at the level, which maybe they, they would, I feel like a lot of people.

[00:55:40] Brad: Who don’t have the LRH admin tech don’t know how to evaluate. They’re like, I, I like this person. Mm-hmm. That’s the person I’ll put. Like, what, what would you tell that business owner? 

[00:55:51] Brenna: So the first thing is you have to track their valuable final product. What is the thing they’re supposed to produce?

[00:55:56] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:55:56] Brenna: And then you put a statistic to that. Yes. I, so that’s how [00:56:00] you tell it’s not emotion. It’s not how much you like somebody. I mean, there’s sometimes someone has very bad emotionally and you should get rid of them regardless because they’re toxic. Right? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So that’s the only case that it can be a deal breaker.

[00:56:09] Brenna: It can be a deal breaker. I mean, I’ve had someone who was a pretty good producer, but would chew up the other team members. Mm-hmm. And I’m like, it gets to a point where you can’t have that in the environment. Right? 

[00:56:19] Yep. 

[00:56:19] Brenna: Um, and anyways, so, but otherwise it’s like, yeah, find what is the valuable final product.

[00:56:25] Brenna: The way you define that is like, this is from L and Hubbard, the exchangeable product inside or outside the organization. So if that person selling a product, okay, that’s value. Even if they’re, uh, human resources. They’re creating staff members, they’re creating employees that can produce, they can hack people, whatever.

[00:56:41] Brenna: What is that valuable? Find a product. And then how do you measure that? 

[00:56:44] Brad: Mm-hmm. Yep. 

[00:56:45] Brenna: With some things, it’s super easy. It’s like they either sold it or they didn’t sell, or they either produced it, you sign contract, you built a house, or you didn’t build the house. Mm-hmm. You know, like you did it on time or you didn’t do it on time.

[00:56:54] Brenna: You, you know, you got a new product for the company or you didn’t. Mm-hmm. So we, we can sell it or not. So that’s [00:57:00] sometimes easy. Sometimes it’s more tangible and you gotta figure out another way to figure it out. But it’s usually something, and it’s really based on like, if that number’s going up, are you happy as an, as an owner?

[00:57:09] Brad: Yeah, of 

[00:57:09] Brenna: course. You know, are you happy if it, if the guy you don’t know if he’s producing or not, then why is he there? You know, like mm-hmm. If you can’t track it, if there’s no way to track someone’s production, that’s just red flag number one. 

[00:57:20] Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah. True. 

[00:57:21] Brenna: You’re like, I know he does stuff. He just handles, I had this one client, he was like, he, he paid this guy quite a bit of money and he would just be like, he couldn’t really measure the production, but he just knew that he was doing a lot of good stuff.

[00:57:32] Brenna: I’m like, great, let’s, let’s measure something. 

[00:57:33] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[00:57:34] Brenna: And the guy would protest. You can’t measure what I do. Oh. You know, you can’t track, 

[00:57:40] Aaron: you can’t make me do a weekly report. 

[00:57:42] Brenna: No. 

[00:57:42] Brad: Literally 

[00:57:43] Brenna: that. No, I’m not, you know, I’m good. You know, I do this and I’ve, and there’s like past products from a year ago that, okay, but what did you do this week?

[00:57:50] Brenna: Like, what are you doing on a ongoing basis? 

[00:57:53] Brad: Yeah. I already paid you for that 

[00:57:54] Brenna: one. Yeah, exactly. Like, that was last year’s up, you know? Um, but that’s, that the, the number one thing, and then there’s three [00:58:00] types of personnel that he talks about. Yeah. And it’s, you have the willing, you have 

[00:58:04] Brad: two thumbs up for the will, 

[00:58:05] Brenna: the willing, that’s all you want.

[00:58:06] Brenna: Right. Then you have the Defiant negative. Those guys are pretty obvious. Like they’re pushing back. They’re, they’re, you know, that, and then you have the holy shiftless. They just roll with the tide. They don’t do anything bad, but they don’t produce anything. They’re just kind of, you know, flowing, going with the flow.

[00:58:23] Brenna: And El Ron Hubbert says you only want the willing Yeah. So it’s not that people who are holy shiftless at the beginning, maybe they can be pushed to produce once they’re like, Hey, let’s go, let’s go, let’s go. And they can be brought up. Tone to be willing, even willing. People sometimes do bad things, sometimes they mess up.

[00:58:39] Brenna: Totally. Totally. And I, you know, I’ve had people that are willing and I’ve given them chances to fix stuff that made mistakes. As long as they do fix it and they do apply, you know, handle and overdo what they messed up, you know? Mm-hmm. Then I’m, I, I have a really great example. I had somebody that was handling my hr.

[00:58:57] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[00:58:57] Brenna: And this was years ago, and [00:59:00] he made a mistake. We fired somebody and he never took the person off payroll. So it was literally paid the person two times after. And I was like, oh my God. So I’m like, you need to get that money back. ’cause I’m like, you have to make up the damage. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Like, we paid this person.

[00:59:15] Brenna: Mm-hmm. You need, this is your fault. Yeah. I’m not paying. Like, come on. Yeah. And so he did a condition formula from Elwyn Hub. And he applied it. Lower conditions called liability. He did it and he got the money back. 

[00:59:28] Brad: Wow. 

[00:59:31] Brenna: He got it back. He did a great job and it was an honest, it was a mistake, it was an admin error, obviously.

[00:59:35] Brenna: I, we wrote a whole policy on a, uh, you know, exit checklist and yeah. It was a stupid admin error. I should have caught it. Mm-hmm. Obviously, as an executive, that’s also my fault, but it was his responsibility. And I made him do that liability formula. Mm-hmm. And he got it back. 

[00:59:48] Brad: That’s awesome. 

[00:59:49] Brenna: And I was like, and the person was like, I, I noticed it.

[00:59:52] Brenna: I didn’t, you know, I felt bad too, so, and he, she was happy to do it. Right. I, yeah. I mean, I bet people don’t even ever ask, right? Yeah. Like, if that would’ve happened, you’re [01:00:00] be like, oh, that’s lost. I was just, it wasn’t so much the money, it was like, that’s a betrayal. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a mess.

[01:00:06] Brenna: That’s your job. Mm-hmm. That’s the principle. And I, you’re gonna either not be here or you’re gonna get that money back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s your It’s true. It’s sure. I mean, that’s like, you didn’t do your job. That’s so good. That’s a major failure for that, you know, position. Right? 

[01:00:16] Brad: Yeah. 

[01:00:17] Brenna: So anyway, there’s so many great tools that are useful.

[01:00:20] Brenna: Like, that’s, you don’t have to be religious to do that, right? No. Like, that’s literally a business decision. Mm-hmm. That’s a how do you decide It’s 

[01:00:26] Brad: a damn good business 

[01:00:27] Brenna: decision. It is. Right. And I was like, I felt so good. Like, that’s such a clear application. I, I help my, I tell my clients that all the time.

[01:00:32] Brad: Yeah. 

[01:00:32] Brenna: They’re like, that happened to you too, you know? Yeah. And I was like, look, I own a business too. Happened to last month. Yeah. I’m like, I own a business. I, I run in. Bad, you know, employees or something? Not really often. ’cause my employees are so trained to deliver that material. 

[01:00:47] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[01:00:47] Brenna: They have to get really trained.

[01:00:49] Brenna: They have like, they need to know it and be experienced. Like, I don’t expose my clients to someone who isn’t experienced, but there’s some, you know, administrative positions that don’t require that at the beginning. [01:01:00] So I’ve gone through that. I’ve gone through times where our income crashed. I’ve gone through times where I was like, what am I gonna do?

[01:01:05] Brenna: You know, like I, I need to be able to get more efficient. So like, we used to travel all the time for seminars every single month and it wasn’t always viable. And I was like, huh, this is right when I took over and I was like, okay. I know what I could do. I could build out part of where I was. My existing building at the time turned into a seminar space.

[01:01:24] Brad: Nice. 

[01:01:24] Brenna: And I was like, I could do seminars in-house. 

[01:01:26] Brad: Yeah. 

[01:01:26] Brenna: And I thought it wasn’t the same quality as a hotel. Of course, but a lot of my clients were like, good on you. That’s a great save of money. 

[01:01:33] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[01:01:34] Brenna: They were like, that was so smart. And I was like, thank you. And I was like, okay, good. So it’s the same material.

[01:01:39] Brenna: They got the same value. Right. And they actually liked it because they had access my entire team because we were in the same building. How cool was that? Wow. So we did that and then we grew out it, ’cause I kind of had a, I had um, 6,500 square feet space at the time and I just took a bunch of offices, squished everybody on the sides and build out a cool two seminar rooms actually.

[01:01:58] Brenna: It was great. And then, [01:02:00] um, and then it was, I was growing outta the space and I was like, okay, so I gotta apply a condition formula to that and I gotta expand. And one of what’s my next thing? And I wanted to buy a building ’cause they were selling that building and they were selling that building for 1.9 million that I was in.

[01:02:13] Brenna: And I was like, okay, it’s kind of in a good location, but that’s more than what I was expecting to pay. 

[01:02:18] Yeah. 

[01:02:18] Brenna: And then, um, I, I saw a bunch of com comps and stuff and different places. So I found this building, I just walked into it, it was set for sale and it was a shoe warehouse. And I asked some like foreman that was moving boxes.

[01:02:31] Brenna: I’m like, Hey, can you gimme a tour? I just wanna see the place. Before I even asked him, he was like, yeah, they’ve been trying to sell this place for a while. Come on in. And so he walked me through and I was like, it was a not nice. 

[01:02:40] Yeah. 

[01:02:40] Brenna: You know, space? Mm-hmm. Like the walls were crap and the floor was bad, but it was huge.

[01:02:45] Brenna: It was big. 17,000 square feet. Right. 

[01:02:47] Wow. 

[01:02:47] Brenna: And it was like, had a whole warehouse at the top and that the ceiling had no ceiling. Like it was all exposed. The uh, everything was like hanging out from the ceiling. It was, anyway, but it was, the entrance was really nice. It had a nice front [01:03:00] desk, but it was enough space where I could do seminars.

[01:03:02] Brenna: Mm-hmm. I was like, this whole warehouse I could turn to a seminar space. Yeah. Wow. It was like super excited. So they were selling for 2.5 and I was like, you know, I wasn’t in a position to do that for me at the time, so I was like, okay, I’m gonna wait a little. Someone went to contract and then I kept looking.

[01:03:16] Brenna: Then it went back on the market for 1.9. Wow. And I was like, wow, that’s like the same. This is awesome. 

[01:03:21] Brad: Except three times bigger. 

[01:03:22] Brenna: Three times bigger. Perfect. And it’s my own. And I could really expand into it. I still have space. I’m not using, I, we can have a full training center, which we do like actual coursework and we do seminars and my consultants can have space.

[01:03:35] Brenna: It was awesome. And so, but then, uh, I wanted a cheaper price. You know, I wanted to get a good deal. Sure. And I had a really, Ray Asana was my, uh, agent. Mm-hmm. He helped me. I think we got it down. We, what I ended up paying was 1.5. 

[01:03:48] Brad: Wow. 

[01:03:49] Brenna: For that building. 

[01:03:50] Brad: That’s awesome. 

[01:03:50] Brenna: You should come see it. Yeah. It’s, he’s been there.

[01:03:52] Brenna: So we renovated it. I turned it in from this like, you know, crappy little place. Basically a big place to like a really [01:04:00] cool, like, our clients were like, wow, this is cool. You have a building, like not a lot of consulting companies have a real place. Absolutely. Mm-hmm. A home base. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Where you bring people to.

[01:04:08] Brenna: Um, we still travel to Arizona a few times a year, so we do West Coast seminars, but I do all my big seminars here. It’s like 15 minutes away from here. 

[01:04:15] Aaron: Yeah. 

[01:04:16] Brenna: And so, 

[01:04:16] Aaron: yeah, I spoke at, I spoke at one of those seminars. 

[01:04:18] Brenna: You spoke in our 

[01:04:18] Aaron: seminar. There’s a lot of people there. 

[01:04:19] Brenna: Yeah. 

[01:04:19] Aaron: It was a lot of people. Wow.

[01:04:20] Brenna: Yeah. And there were, I thought you save a couple hundred people at a seminar. 

[01:04:23] Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

[01:04:23] Brenna: That’s amazing. He did an awesome talk on his application of the condition formulas, you know, growing up and stuff like that, and turning his life around. We Good talk. It was so, you know, it was so good. They, I had a lot of people bring it up afterwards is like, there’s a word in institutions everyone Hubbert talks about.

[01:04:37] Brenna: Yeah. It’s like being flippant, like not being focused on negativity, not being so serious, not being so serious. Just 

[01:04:41] Aaron: being kind of like, 

[01:04:42] Brenna: okay, it’s gonna happen. And so he’s like talking about, yeah, it lost $2 million. And they’re like, woo. And he’s like, what am I gonna do? Just die? Like, no, I gotta go for it.

[01:04:49] Brenna: Just, and he’s like, you know, I gotta, I gotta move on. And he’s, and they were just like, it was such a, it was great. It’s like orders of magnitude for them because, you know, some of my clients are, you know, multimillion dollar practices [01:05:00] and some have, you know, make 500 grand a year and a million dollar, $2 million loss would’ve been like, oh my god, you know?

[01:05:06] Brenna: So I like to bring in people that are really successful to share their wins to, to my clients. But that’s something that, like, I was able to do that by using the administrative technology, you know, like found the right thing, figured out the right time for us, expand, and then it’s just another promotional venue for me to be able to help more people get through all this stuff.

[01:05:25] Brad: Amazing. 

[01:05:26] Aaron: It’s a great space. 

[01:05:27] Brenna: Yeah, 

[01:05:27] Aaron: it’s a great work. So if someone wants to do you only work with, uh, medical people? 

[01:05:31] Brenna: No, I, we can work with anyone. I mean, the tech works for everybody. We have, I would say what’s we have tailored for is like in the natural healthcare field. Okay. Um, for like sale, we could do sales for anyone, but there’s a particular sales course that we have for that in front desk and marketing for healthcare.

[01:05:47] Brenna: So who, so like, but like any other business would’ve used the tools. 

[01:05:50] Aaron: So who, like if someone wants to work with you. Yeah. Okay. Just like give your pitch. 

[01:05:56] Brenna: Yeah. 

[01:05:56] Aaron: Okay. 

[01:05:57] Brenna: We are the best. Ha ha. The thing is [01:06:00] that we do is we train, um, executives how to become ceo. 

[01:06:04] Aaron: Okay. 

[01:06:04] Brenna: So they would learn instead of just consulting them to just like, feed them all the time information.

[01:06:10] Brenna: This is do this next, do this next until you’re, it’s not that we don’t want, a lot of our clients have been with us for like 10, 15 years. Mm-hmm. So it’s not like they, you ever stop needing a coach, just like a, a, a pro athlete. Mm-hmm. Always needs a trainer to help ’em get through stuff three feet back of their practice.

[01:06:23] Brenna: Mm-hmm. Be able to look like, oh, what do I need to do next? But, um, what we teach you is to be able to figure it out yourself too. 

[01:06:28] Brad: Mm-hmm. 

[01:06:29] Brenna: So like we give you the tools to be able to make it so that you can, you can determine the fate of your life. You can open that next practice. You can like have a problem, be able to solve it and not have to always count on somebody.

[01:06:40] Brenna: And other consulting companies do lots of training. I mean, there’s some great groups out there that I love, but I feel like what really differentiates us is that we actually do course drilling. And practical drilling. So, you know this, like, you know it so well, we, you do a, a training course with us where you actually study in like a classroom setting.

[01:06:59] Brenna: You get word [01:07:00] cleared on it. People ask any misunderstood words, you get drilled and drilled. Role playing on what could go wrong. What do you do when this happens? What do you do when this happens? And then you have to go like, okay. Until you get to the point where as an executive, I have a client that had done every course that we’ve done, which we have like 17 executive courses.

[01:07:18] Brenna: Mm-hmm. Nice. Different layers of levels. And we have a whole expansion chart to like get to the top mm-hmm. Of all the courses, he’s done it. And again, he’s not a Scientologist, he’s a great, amazing, uh, person. He is got, I think he’s got, he got me at one, he’s got five kids. 

[01:07:31] Aaron: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

[01:07:32] Brenna: Um, and he’s, uh, so he just opened a 25,000 square foot building mm-hmm.

[01:07:37] Brenna: That he built from scratch. His partner, um, bought out a part of his medically integrated practice because he saw how unbelievable the systems are. Yeah. Like he literally has systems for everything. He has hats for everything. Mm-hmm. He has trainings for everything. And he told him like, it’s because of the business academy.

[01:07:53] Brenna: Mm. Like I learned all these, I learned it. So he could do it for other people. Like this guy could be a consultant. Yep. Yeah. I mean, he’s [01:08:00] so good. So now he’s partnered with him in another pain clinic where they do medical procedures also in that building. And then they have a whole event space where they can do other talks with attorneys.

[01:08:08] Brenna: I mean, he is gone like whole different direction, but it’s because he learned it himself. And I love that. Like I’m just, I help make the able more able and so we can teach someone how to close. That’s never closed anything. Like I, we’ve taught a 20-year-old person that you would not imagine would be a closer at the beginning, but just had really good communication skills and all that.

[01:08:29] Brenna: Um, how to be able to close 20, $30,000 care plans. 

[01:08:33] Aaron: That’s awesome. 

[01:08:33] Brenna: I mean, our, our courses work, they like the material works. Mm-hmm. It is amazing. 

[01:08:37] Aaron: And so how do they get in touch with you or how do they someone to work with you? 

[01:08:41] Brenna: So you could go on the business academy.com. That’s our website, or email me at brenna@thebusinessacademy.com.

[01:08:48] Brenna: Super easy. We have a great website. We have webinars for free every week. We have seminars every two months, and we just love to help a lot of people. 

[01:08:57] Aaron: Brilliant. 

[01:08:57] Brenna: Yeah. 

[01:08:58] Aaron: Brilliant. 

[01:08:58] Brad: That’s amazing. 

[01:08:59] Aaron: Okay, good. [01:09:00] So, 10 off. One thing that we ask all the, uh, all of our guests 

[01:09:04] Brenna: Yeah, 

[01:09:04] Aaron: of course, is in your own words. 

[01:09:06] Brenna: Yes.

[01:09:06] Aaron: What is Scientology? 

[01:09:08] Brenna: Scientology is knowing how to know, and it’s a, a, a, the most amazing church and spiritual awareness that you can bring to someone. So it’s your, it’s teaching you to improve your own life. So it’s, it’s tools to enhance your own life in whatever direction, in all aspects of your life.

[01:09:28] Brenna: So to me, it’s like, it’s freedom, it’s spiritual freedom, and the wins that I’ve had because of Scientology as a business owner, as a mother, the amount I don’t get upset. I mean, I’m not saying I don’t have a bad day, but like mm-hmm. It doesn’t last for long. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I used to have a problem and I would cave for, and this was like, even, like the more I go up in my spiritual counseling, the more this just disappears.

[01:09:54] Brenna: Mm-hmm. Like I would say even like four years ago I did these rundowns that just life changing. 

[01:09:58] Mm-hmm. 

[01:09:58] Brenna: And it literally, like, the [01:10:00] more I do that, I literally, I don’t, I don’t, I don’t cave in for longer than, oh, okay. I can, I can have a crybaby session in the corner for a little bit and then you get over it.

[01:10:08] Brenna: Right. Yeah. So to me, Scientology means like, it is spiritual awareness. It’s being able to improve yourself and others and helping your life to just become the most successful possible life that you can have and to be truly free. 

[01:10:23] Aaron: Nice. Amazing. 

[01:10:24] Brenna: Yes. 

[01:10:24] Aaron: Incredible. 

[01:10:25] Brenna: Thank you. 

[01:10:25] Aaron: Well, thanks guys for listening to the Don’t Do Nothing podcast and uh, all the links are below.

[01:10:30] Awesome. 

[01:10:30] Aaron: Peace. 

[01:10:30] Brenna: Thanks for having me.